2002 Corolla Turning the AC on when defrosting
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From: Ray O on 1 Aug 2010 16:05 "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message news:Xns9DC6D6EB6FD69JaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... > "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote : > >> >> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >> news:Xns9DC3EE953EBB8JaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >>> >>>><snipped>> >>>>> If I could modify the car, I'd put a switch in there to select >>>>> headlights on all the time, or not. >>>> >>>> That switch already is in your car. >>> >>> Huh? >> >> Just leave the headlight switch in the on position to have them on all >> the time, and turn the switch to the off position to turn them off. >> >> When you exit the car with the headlights on and engine off, hit the >> lock button on your remote keyless fob twice to turn off the lights. >> >>> >>>> I'd put a darn thermostat in for the AC compressor >>>>> so we dont have to do that by hand. ( the AC is SO cold in this car >>>>> that if >>>>> it's cloudy in the summer, we have to keep switching the ac button on >>>>> and off! ) >>>> >>>> Try turning the temperature control up a little. >>>> >>>> And I'd put in an option switch to either turn on the AC compressor >>>>> in the windshield mode, or not. >>>> >>>> Then your vehicle would probably not be in compliance with FMVSS 103, >>>> which pertains to windshield defrosting and defogging systems and how >>>> quickly they clear the winndshield of frost and/or fog. >>> >>> Oh frap, more government regs? >>> >> >> The standards regulate how quickly the windshield is cleared and which >> part of the windshield is cleared first. To me, this seems like a >> reasonable standard. > > I'm in the U.S. so few regulations seem "reasonable" to me. > > > -- > - Jane Galt > For the most part, I agree, but in the case of automobiles, most people don't know nearly as much as they think they do setting "default" settings make a lot of sense. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: CharlesGrozny on 1 Aug 2010 17:30 "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message news:i34kct$iqj$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message > news:Xns9DC6D683C18EJaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote : >> >>> >>> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >>> news:Xns9DC3E747AAB38JaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote : >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:i2pv67$tj1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>> >>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:i2peh1$ird$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >>>>>> >>>>>>>> My gas bill will notice it, and it puts wear on the compressor. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You gas consumption from the AC isn't worth the discussion. Less >>>>>>> than a few miles on a tank of gas. >>>>>> >>>>>> For years I have kept a gas mileage log book. I've never been able to >>>>>> find a difference in mileage based on the time of the year >>>>>> (Winter/Fall/Spring versus summer). This implies to me, the cost to >>>>>> run the A/C is negligible. >>>>>> >>>>>> As for wear, running the compressor occasionally is actually a good >>>>>> thing - it assures the internal components and seals stay lubricated. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I agree. There can't be more of an affect than few miles on an entire >>>>> tank of gas that comes from using the AC. >>>> >>>> A couple of mpg? >>>> >>> >>> Not a couple mpg, a couple of tenths of mpg. >>> >>> I said, "miles on an entire tank of gas." Let's say you can go 320 miles >>> on a tank of gas without the AC on, you would go 310 miles with the AC >>> on. These numbers are ones I pulled out of my butt to illustrate the >>> point that the AC is not a significant burden on fuel mileage, as it >>> once was. >> >> Sounds amazing. >> >> I remember AC's used to take off 3 MPG, but not how long ago that >> changed. >> >> Is that true too, for the 93 Corollas? >> >> >> -- >> - Jane Galt >> > > No. > -- > > Ray O > (correct punctuation to reply) > Now, none of my AE10x boxes automatically turns on the AC when I turn on the defroster. (1993-1995) But my old S10 did (1995) My current AE101 does not. As a matter of fact, sometimes the window steams over if I turn on the defroster and don't punch the AC button. This time of year, I usually have AC on all the time anyway. Charles Grozny
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 1 Aug 2010 19:29 On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:30:13 -0500, CharlesGrozny wrote: > > "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message > news:i34kct$iqj$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >> news:Xns9DC6D683C18EJaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote : >>> >>>> >>>> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >>>> news:Xns9DC3E747AAB38JaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote : >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:i2pv67$tj1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:i2peh1$ird$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> My gas bill will notice it, and it puts wear on the compressor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You gas consumption from the AC isn't worth the discussion. Less >>>>>>>> than a few miles on a tank of gas. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For years I have kept a gas mileage log book. I've never been able to >>>>>>> find a difference in mileage based on the time of the year >>>>>>> (Winter/Fall/Spring versus summer). This implies to me, the cost to >>>>>>> run the A/C is negligible. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As for wear, running the compressor occasionally is actually a good >>>>>>> thing - it assures the internal components and seals stay lubricated. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I agree. There can't be more of an affect than few miles on an entire >>>>>> tank of gas that comes from using the AC. >>>>> >>>>> A couple of mpg? >>>>> >>>> >>>> Not a couple mpg, a couple of tenths of mpg. >>>> >>>> I said, "miles on an entire tank of gas." Let's say you can go 320 miles >>>> on a tank of gas without the AC on, you would go 310 miles with the AC >>>> on. These numbers are ones I pulled out of my butt to illustrate the >>>> point that the AC is not a significant burden on fuel mileage, as it >>>> once was. >>> >>> Sounds amazing. >>> >>> I remember AC's used to take off 3 MPG, but not how long ago that >>> changed. >>> >>> Is that true too, for the 93 Corollas? >>> >>> >>> -- >>> - Jane Galt >>> >> >> No. >> -- >> >> Ray O >> (correct punctuation to reply) >> > > Now, none of my AE10x boxes automatically turns on the AC when I turn on the > defroster. (1993-1995) But my old S10 did (1995) My current AE101 does > not. As a matter of fact, sometimes the window steams over if I turn on the > defroster and don't punch the AC button. This time of year, I usually > have AC on all the time anyway. > > Charles Grozny I want an AE92... http://accentae86.com/ae/img%5Cae92-7.jpg
From: Mike on 1 Aug 2010 19:38 If your windows are fogging up you must be operating in the "recirc" of "Max" mode. All vehicles, with factory installed AC, turns it on to defrost the windshield with warmed dehumidified air. "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:i35008$bdl$8(a)news.albasani.net... > On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:30:13 -0500, CharlesGrozny wrote: > >> >> >> Now, none of my AE10x boxes automatically turns on the AC when I turn on >> the >> defroster. (1993-1995) But my old S10 did (1995) My current AE101 >> does >> not. As a matter of fact, sometimes the window steams over if I turn on >> the >> defroster and don't punch the AC button. This time of year, I usually >> have AC on all the time anyway. >> >> Charles Grozny > > I want an AE92... > >
From: CharlesGrozny on 1 Aug 2010 21:03
"Mike" <mikehunt2(a)lycos.com> wrote in message news:EqadnRIIGu0KmMvRnZ2dnUVZ_jOdnZ2d(a)ptd.net... > If your windows are fogging up you must be operating in the "recirc" of > "Max" mode. All vehicles, with factory installed AC, turns it on to > defrost the windshield with warmed dehumidified air. > > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:i35008$bdl$8(a)news.albasani.net... >> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 16:30:13 -0500, CharlesGrozny wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> Now, none of my AE10x boxes automatically turns on the AC when I turn on >>> the >>> defroster. (1993-1995) But my old S10 did (1995) My current AE101 >>> does >>> not. As a matter of fact, sometimes the window steams over if I turn on >>> the >>> defroster and don't punch the AC button. This time of year, I usually >>> have AC on all the time anyway. >>> >>> Charles Grozny >> >> I want an AE92... >> > >> > > All of my AE10x machines have a separate AC button and if I turn on Defrost, I have to hit the AC button for the AC to go on. No it's not on max recirc. I leave my car on half recirc half fresh year round. The only controls I change are the heat (cold in summer, hot in winter) and the director control, which is usually set to vent in summer and defrost in winter. And of course the A/C which I turn off of a winter most of the time. I used to do that with my old TE72 long hatchback, too. And the TE72 before that, and the KE30 before that with no AC. Charles Grozny |