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From: Clive on 18 Jul 2010 21:22 In message <4c1746pfpnot59jho688studskbmpvorvb(a)4ax.com>, Just my name <jackj180{send(a)no.spam}.invalid> writes >Q: What controls the throttle plate? >A: The computer. >Q: What controls the brakes on a car with ABS? >A: The computer. >Q: What generates the data that is recorded in the data recorders? >A: The computer. >Are you beginning to see a pattern here? One of the inputs to the >computer glitches and tells the computer the throttle needs to be wide >open. The computer opens the throttle wide and logs it as a command >from the driver. Upon a power cycle, the computer input resets and >the tech sees no code because the computer didn't see a failure, it >saw valid command. I bet that in your mind, pigs fly. -- Clive
From: Mike Hunter on 18 Jul 2010 21:47 Actually there is no longer a "throttle plate" as in a carburetor, but your point is correct the computer control the fuel. However it is still Toyotas problem, they designed a position for the brake and throttle that is apparently confusing to many of the woman and older folks who are their primary customers if they are applying throttle when they intend to apply braking. "Just my name" <jackj180{send no spam}@windstream.net> wrote in message news:4c1746pfpnot59jho688studskbmpvorvb(a)4ax.com... > Q: What controls the throttle plate? > A: The computer. > > Q: What controls the brakes on a car with ABS? > A: The computer. > > Q: What generates the data that is recorded in the data recorders? > A: The computer. > > Are you beginning to see a pattern here? One of the inputs to the > computer glitches and tells the computer the throttle needs to be wide > open. The computer opens the throttle wide and logs it as a command > from the driver. Upon a power cycle, the computer input resets and > the tech sees no code because the computer didn't see a failure, it > saw valid command. > > > On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:22:40 +0000 (UTC), "badgolferman" > <REMOVETHISbadgolferman(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >>The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data >>recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed >>on sudden acceleration and found that at the time of the crashes, >>throttles were wide open and the brakes were not engaged, people >>familiar with the findings said. >> >>The results suggest that some drivers who said their Toyota and Lexus >>vehicles surged out of control were mistakenly flooring the accelerator >>when they intended to jam on the brakes. But the findings don't >>exonerate Toyota from two known issues blamed for sudden acceleration >>in its vehicles: sticky accelerator pedals and floor mats that can trap >>accelerator pedals to the floor. >> >>The findings by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration >>involve a sample of reports in which a driver of a Toyota vehicle said >>the brakes were depressed but failed to stop the car from accelerating >>and ultimately crashing. >> >>The data recorders analyzed by NHTSA were selected by the agency, not >>Toyota, based on complaints the drivers had filed with the government. >> >> >> >>http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703834604575364871534435744.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEADNewsCollection
From: Mike Hunter on 18 Jul 2010 21:49
I guess you missed his point, Toyota still has a problem that needs to be corrected if owners are confused ;) "Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:e7H9OdgJj6QMFwKg(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message <4c1746pfpnot59jho688studskbmpvorvb(a)4ax.com>, Just my name > <jackj180{send(a)no.spam}.invalid> writes >>Q: What controls the throttle plate? >>A: The computer. >>Q: What controls the brakes on a car with ABS? >>A: The computer. >>Q: What generates the data that is recorded in the data recorders? >>A: The computer. >>Are you beginning to see a pattern here? One of the inputs to the >>computer glitches and tells the computer the throttle needs to be wide >>open. The computer opens the throttle wide and logs it as a command >>from the driver. Upon a power cycle, the computer input resets and >>the tech sees no code because the computer didn't see a failure, it >>saw valid command. > I bet that in your mind, pigs fly. > -- > Clive > |