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From: badgolferman on 13 Jul 2010 14:22 The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed on sudden acceleration and found that at the time of the crashes, throttles were wide open and the brakes were not engaged, people familiar with the findings said. The results suggest that some drivers who said their Toyota and Lexus vehicles surged out of control were mistakenly flooring the accelerator when they intended to jam on the brakes. But the findings don't exonerate Toyota from two known issues blamed for sudden acceleration in its vehicles: sticky accelerator pedals and floor mats that can trap accelerator pedals to the floor. The findings by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration involve a sample of reports in which a driver of a Toyota vehicle said the brakes were depressed but failed to stop the car from accelerating and ultimately crashing. The data recorders analyzed by NHTSA were selected by the agency, not Toyota, based on complaints the drivers had filed with the government. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748703834604575364871534435744.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEADNewsCollection
From: Mark on 13 Jul 2010 15:41 My 4.5 year old Scion has hooks on the driver's mat to prevent it from creeping forward. On Jul 13, 2:22 pm, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolfer...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > The U.S. Department of Transportation has analyzed dozens of data > recorders from Toyota Motor Corp. vehicles involved in accidents blamed > on sudden acceleration and found that at the time of the crashes, > throttles were wide open and the brakes were not engaged, people > familiar with the findings said. > > The results suggest that some drivers who said their Toyota and Lexus > vehicles surged out of control were mistakenly flooring the accelerator > when they intended to jam on the brakes. But the findings don't > exonerate Toyota from two known issues blamed for sudden acceleration > in its vehicles: sticky accelerator pedals and floor mats that can trap > accelerator pedals to the floor. > > The findings by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration > involve a sample of reports in which a driver of a Toyota vehicle said > the brakes were depressed but failed to stop the car from accelerating > and ultimately crashing. > > The data recorders analyzed by NHTSA were selected by the agency, not > Toyota, based on complaints the drivers had filed with the government. > > http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870383460457536487153443...
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 13 Jul 2010 16:47 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 18:22:40 +0000, badgolferman wrote: > The results suggest that some drivers who said their Toyota and Lexus > vehicles surged out of control were mistakenly flooring the accelerator > when they intended to jam on the brakes. Seems to me I heard something about this... in this newsgroup... a few months ago...
From: Skeptic on 13 Jul 2010 20:57 Mark <bogusmailmark(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >My 4.5 year old Scion has hooks on the driver's mat to prevent it from >creeping forward. Yeah, so does mine, but the mats soon come off the hooks if you apply pressure such as when you're trying to get something out of your pants pocket (like a toll) and you lift up your butt to get at the pocket while pressing down on your feet and back on your shoulders. The mats slide right off the hooks. A better design would be a securing bolt passing through a plastic washer.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 13 Jul 2010 21:30
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010 20:57:10 -0400, Skeptic wrote: > Mark <bogusmailmark(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>My 4.5 year old Scion has hooks on the driver's mat to prevent it from >>creeping forward. > > Yeah, so does mine, but the mats soon come off the hooks if you apply > pressure such as when you're trying to get something out of your pants > pocket (like a toll) and you lift up your butt to get at the pocket while > pressing down on your feet and back on your shoulders. The mats slide > right off the hooks. A better design would be a securing bolt passing > through a plastic washer. Mine didn't come with the factory mats, so I put in some from an Acura. They slide up all the time, making it hard to start the car when it gets under the clutch pedal. Never has made the car accelerate... |