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From: Clive on 24 Feb 2010 19:45 In message <8df0a424-4282-48af-926a-1905ebd4fcd1(a)v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, in2dadark <in2dadark(a)yahoo.com> writes > I think toyota already knows this and should turn it around and >market it as a deterent to keep people off of their cells while >driving. Pass a law making it illegal to drive while on the phone and >put this system in every car. Use your cell phone and DIE... In the UK using a cell phone carries three points on your licence (12 is an automatic ban) 60UKP fixed penalty notice, doubled if you refuse and go to court and another 15UKP for some kind of reform program. Then there are the costs if you go to court, anywhere between 50 and 200UKP. -- Clive
From: charlesgrozny on 24 Feb 2010 20:05 "Clive" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:PwfJMXVvgchLFwca(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > In message > <8df0a424-4282-48af-926a-1905ebd4fcd1(a)v25g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, > in2dadark <in2dadark(a)yahoo.com> writes >> I think toyota already knows this and should turn it around and >>market it as a deterent to keep people off of their cells while >>driving. Pass a law making it illegal to drive while on the phone and >>put this system in every car. Use your cell phone and DIE... > In the UK using a cell phone carries three points on your licence (12 is > an automatic ban) 60UKP fixed penalty notice, doubled if you refuse and go > to court and another 15UKP for some kind of reform program. Then there > are the costs if you go to court, anywhere between 50 and 200UKP. > -- > Clive > I've been using a two way radio and cellphones in my car for 25 years now. What's the problem? Nanny state not restrictive enough for you kids? Charles Grozny
From: James Goforth on 24 Feb 2010 22:49 Hachiroku wrote, "I posted this too. I think she needs to take the bus. Obviously she did NOT have the car in neutral. She was probably using the Sport mode and thought when it was in the center it was in neutral." *********************************** The whole thing seems strange: she was allowed to appear on national TV with this wild story about how the car wouldn't stop, even though almost anyone watching it would dismiss it as impossible that SOMETHING wouldn't stop it -- taking it out of gear, standing on brakes, shutting off ignition, etc. And when she gets done reciting her story, nobody addresses the fact that it's at the very least unlikely, if not impossible, to have happened that way. I can totally envision an old lady who is probably a marginal driver anyway and being totally freaked out and standing on the accelerator thinking it was the brake or something. The one that I found more curious was the one where the person behind the wheel was a State Policeman -- THAT'S the guy who should have known how to deal with the situation if anyone would. And he couldn't. Also, I would think any time a car did something like that, it would be immediately impounded and gone over with a fine tooth comb by Toyota, the Feds, or someone... instead of everyone scratching their heads over it. It seems like the cause should have been found years ago by now.
From: James Goforth on 24 Feb 2010 22:51 Hachiroku wrote, "I posted this too. I think she needs to take the bus. Obviously she did NOT have the car in neutral. She was probably using the Sport mode and thought when it was in the center it was in neutral. " ********************************** She was sexting while driving. Her boob dropped down and mashed the accelerator to the floor.
From: Clive on 25 Feb 2010 08:03
In message <hm50qv$msp$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Jeff Strickland <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> writes >This is a complicated issue to be sure, and I'm not here to second guess >anybody, but there is a very real possibility that the problem is very >simple, so simple that nobody sees it. I would never have believed that >grounding the Control Panel circuit board at both ends could be a problem, >two grounds has got to be better than one. Well, I don't know if Physics and electronics are different in the rest of the world than the UK, but here two grounding points are a straight no-no. Whilst the voltage can be virtually zero across two earth points the current can be in the hundreds or thousands of amps leading to instability in all kinds of equipment. This is taught very early on in electronics education. -- Clive |