From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 11:54:11 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote:

> On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:09:01 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:36:49 -0400, Cliff wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-group-climate-change
>>> "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
>>> "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based
>>> petitioner, and
>>> requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"
>>
>>Sounds good to me.
>>
>>If you or Al Gore actually knew anything, you'd know that this bout of
>>"Global Warming" is cyclic and happens every 150,000 years. Followed by
>>an extreme Ice Age (not to be confused with a minor "Glaciation period".
>>
>>"Global Warming" is a term used mostly by scientists with agendas,
>>politicians, and people who don't know any better.
>>
>>If you take the time to Google "Vostok Ice Core data" and can actually
>>read a chart you wouldn't post the propaganda you saw fit to attach to
>>this message.
>>
>>But, I have a feeling you swallow everything Liberals tell you hook, line
>>and sinker anyway.
>>
>>
> Of course. Cliff is a well known Useful Idiot.
>
> Ive had him kill filed for over 5 yrs now as a waste of bytes.
>
> Id suggest doing the same..but..shrug...if you need a typical
> representative of the Far Leftwing Extremist Fringe Kooks to have
> around...keep him.
>
>
> Gunner

LOL! We have a few of our own right here in Toyota, but this Cliff
character takes the cake. He seems to drink the K00l-Aid and then eat the
paper cup!


From: Gunner Asch on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 12:07:44 -0700 (PDT), Shall not be infringed
<hot-ham-and-cheese(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>On May 29, 2:09 pm, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
>> On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:36:49 -0400, Cliff wrote:
>> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-grou...
>> > "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
>> > "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based petitioner,
>> > and
>> > requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"
>>
>> Sounds good to me.
>>
>> If you or Al Gore actually knew anything, you'd know that this bout of
>> "Global Warming" is cyclic and happens every 150,000 years. Followed by an
>> extreme Ice Age (not to be confused with a minor "Glaciation period".
>>
>> "Global Warming" is a term used mostly by scientists with agendas,
>> politicians, and people who don't know any better.
>>
>> If you take the time to Google "Vostok Ice Core data" and can actually
>> read a chart you wouldn't post the propaganda you saw fit to attach to
>> this message.
>
>Vostock being the Russian anarctic research station.
>
>> But, I have a feeling you swallow everything Liberals tell you hook, line
>> and sinker anyway.
>
>It's kind of sad how guillable Cliffie is.


Its not that he is actually "gullable"..its just that he allowed the DNC
to hook that USB port to the back of his skull..and now he is simply a
remote Useful Idiot that parrots whatever dreck the DNC downloads to the
few remaining brain cells (the rest having atropied beyond usefulness)
needed for typing their propaganda to Usenet.

He should be pitied, after the People put a slug though his brain pan.
We put crippled animals down, dont we?

Gunner

--


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The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
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more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
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From: Sharx35 on


"Kevin Cunningham" <smskjc(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:d0f9a8c2-f317-49a5-b124-87624069b6ca(a)c22g2000vbb.googlegroups.com...
> On May 29, 9:30 am, "CharlesGrozny" <n5...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Christopher Helms" <Chrishelms...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:fbbe0e4a-dbdf-4f78-9b6d-0cd4ab225d96(a)o4g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 29, 4:54 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
>> >> On May 29, 2:36 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
>> >> wrote:
>>
>> >> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-grou...
>> >> > "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
>> >> > "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based
>> >> > petitioner, and
>> >> > requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"
>>
>> >> They'er trying this in Texas and Louisana too. Banning
>> >> information from classrooms and textbooks is a major
>> >> right wing cause. Creationists try to ban the teaching
>> >> of evolution. Racists try to prevent pictures of non-white
>> >> peoples in textbooks. In Texas, right wing nuts on the
>> >> state school board plan to remove references to the
>> >> "Age of Enlightenment" and Thomas Jefferson from
>> >> history textbooks.
>>
>> > The same Conservatives who claim global warming isn't happening have
>> > also decided that the jury is still out on Evolution. The conservative
>> > conclusion on GW, which, and I'm sure this is just an amazing
>> > coincidence, is precisely the same conclusion as groups funded by the
>> > oil and gas industries, is that it isn't happening, and even if it
>> > looks like it's happening it still isn't happening, couldn't happen.
>> > Al Gore made it all up. You can tell it's a lie because it still snows
>> > in North Dakota in January and who needs a computer model to see that,
>> > right? Paradoxically, they still occasionally whip out "The sun is
>> > responsible for it" in the middle of all the denials that it is
>> > happening. Fortunately, the far right is blessed with followers who
>> > have the logic chopping abilities of house sparrows and the
>> > contradiction passes unnoticed. The right has decided that scientists
>> > don't know anything about numbers or global trends or temperatures or
>> > anything and the world would be better off listening to REAL climate
>> > experts like Sean Hannity and JD Hayworth. Why spend years in college
>> > and decades studying climate and meteorology when you can get all the
>> > info you need on the "global warming" myth just by just turning on Fox
>> > news at night or picking up a leaflet from some think tank funded by
>> > The American Petroleum Institute?
>>
>> What an idiot.
>>
>> Climate change does happen. What we're debating about is if man's puny
>> little efforts have any effect on it. If so, then why wasn't the climate
>> markedly warmer in the 50's, with all that killer fog around London, eh?
>>
>> Also, if Evolution is a proven theory, when did they publish the proof
>> for
>> macroevolution? Most theories require proof to move from a theory to a
>> fact.
>>
>> Unless you're the missing link, they haven't.
>>
>> Since you seem to be another of those Marxist ranters, you're going into
>> the
>> blockfile. Apparently, you, too, have nothing to add to this discussion
>> except the bs you get from the dailykospiece.
>>
>> Say hello to your Uncle Joe.
>>
>> Charles Grozny
>>
>> Charles Grozny
>
> Show me two papers, one that disproves evolution and one that
> disproves global warming.
>
> And what papers they would be! They would be published in any
> magazine! Their authors would be famous!
>
> To disprove evolution? Why that would mean that most of biology
> doesn't work. That would be a shock to every bio group in the world.
> But if they had the facts.....
>
> To disprove global warming? What that would change our idea of
> instrumentation! But if they had the facts....
>
> But they don't have the facts. Repugs don't have a single fact.
>
> Evolution is real.
>
> Global warming is all too real.
>
> And butt monkies like the above author are too stupid to get the
> point.
>
> There is no point. There is no scientific opposition to evolution,
> you can see it working every day. There is no scientific opposition
> to global warming.
>
> Now go and take the medicines that your psychiatrist prescribed for
> you.

You, obviously being one paranoid, NA�VE LIEbrawl, are far beyond being able
to receive any benefit from medication, save for hemlock or monkshood.





From: Sharx35 on


"Kevin Cunningham" <smskjc(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:952eec8a-7628-49d9-801f-6e6faf3187b3(a)o4g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
> On May 29, 6:03 am, "Sharx35" <shar...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Roger Coppock" <rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:0de7b851-9a6d-4fb8-b0f9-248b3925379c(a)u20g2000pru.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > On May 29, 2:36 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
>> > wrote:
>> >>http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-grou...
>> >> "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
>> >> "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based
>> >> petitioner,
>> >> and
>> >> requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"
>>
>> > They'er trying this in Texas and Louisana too. Banning
>> > information from classrooms and textbooks is a major
>> > right wing cause. Creationists try to ban the teaching
>> > of evolution. Racists try to prevent pictures of non-white
>> > peoples in textbooks. In Texas, right wing nuts on the
>> > state school board plan to remove references to the
>> > "Age of Enlightenment" and Thomas Jefferson from
>> > history textbooks.
>>
>> >> [
>> >> And so to Mesa County in Colorado where this week the first labour
>> >> pains
>> >> of what
>> >> seems to be the birth of a new movement in the US were felt. Dozens of
>> >> protesters attended a meeting of School District 51's Board of
>> >> Education
>> >> to hand
>> >> over two petitions aimed at keeping political views out of the
>> >> county's
>> >> classrooms.
>>
>> >> According to reports in the local press, Rose Pugliese, a local lawyer
>> >> and
>> >> failed Republican candidate for the board of education, authored both
>> >> of
>> >> the
>> >> petitions. The first, which gained 600 signatures of support, simply
>> >> wished for
>> >> teachers not to express their "personal, political views" to pupils,
>> >> whereas the
>> >> second, which gained 700 signatures, sought to stop the teaching of
>> >> global
>> >> warming to children.
>>
>> >> "[Global warming] is not a proven scientific theory. There is not
>> >> evidence to
>> >> support it," Pugliese told the board, according to a report in the
>> >> Denver
>> >> Post.
>> >> It's unclear from the reports whether the petition explicitly called
>> >> for
>> >> any
>> >> teachings about global warming to be stripped from schools, or whether
>> >> it
>> >> called
>> >> for the "other side of the story" to be taught, as Pugliese and her
>> >> supporters
>> >> seemed to be arguing before the board.
>>
>> >> Pugliese, who is also a prominent member of a local Tea Party group
>> >> called the
>> >> Western Slope Conservative Alliance, was supported at the meeting by a
>> >> local PR
>> >> consultant called Laura Kindregan, who is the Colorado representative
>> >> of
>> >> a
>> >> national group calling itself Balanced Education for Everyone. It was
>> >> launched
>> >> in April to assist "concerned citizens around the country in
>> >> challenging
>> >> public
>> >> schools to provide balanced education on the issue of global warming".
>> >> It
>> >> is
>> >> itself an umbrella organisation of the Independent Women's Forum, a
>> >> conservative
>> >> group whose notion of feminism is a tad different to most Guardian
>> >> readers'
>> >> understanding of the term.
>> >> ....
>> >> ]
>>
>> Meanwhile pseudo-scientists and their LIEbrawl brethern try to force
>> bullshit global warming THEORY down our collective throats. What rubbish.
>>
>
> Name a paper that defends your view. Name a single paper, scum.
>
> See, filth, you can't come up with a fact, a paper or a single
> scientific group that agrees with you. Come on, butt monkey, show us
> your facts and cite, cite, cite.
>
> This is the typical right winger, he doesn't know any facts but he
> knows, in his high school drop out brain, that his truth is true, he
> doesn't need those fancy scientists.
>
> Another piece of trailer trash reveals his ignorance.


MY IQ is 145+. Yours?




From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:20:39 -0700, Christopher Helms wrote:

> On May 29, 4:54 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
>> On May 29, 2:36 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-grou...
>> >   "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
>> >   "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based
>> > petitioner, and requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"
>>
>> They'er trying this in Texas and Louisana too.  Banning information
>> from classrooms and textbooks is a major right wing cause.
>>  Creationists try to ban the teaching of evolution.  Racists try to
>> prevent pictures of non-white peoples in textbooks.  In Texas, right
>> wing nuts on the state school board plan to remove references to the
>> "Age of Enlightenment" and Thomas Jefferson from history textbooks.
>
>
> The same Conservatives who claim global warming isn't happening have also
> decided that the jury is still out on Evolution. The conservative
> conclusion on GW, which, and I'm sure this is just an amazing coincidence,
> is precisely the same conclusion as groups funded by the oil and gas
> industries, is that it isn't happening, and even if it looks like it's
> happening it still isn't happening, couldn't happen. Al Gore made it all
> up


Pretty much. The earth is getting warmer. It does so every 150,000 years.
Gore's too stupid to have done some actual RESEARCH first

Notice that temp has started to level off:

http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/IceCores1.gif