From: Claudius Denk on
On May 29, 7:04 am, Kevin Cunningham <sms...(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 9:30 am, "CharlesGrozny" <n5...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
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> > "Christopher Helms" <Chrishelms...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >news:fbbe0e4a-dbdf-4f78-9b6d-0cd4ab225d96(a)o4g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
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> > > On May 29, 4:54 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
> > >> On May 29, 2:36 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
> > >> wrote:
>
> > >> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-grou...
> > >> >   "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
> > >> >   "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based
> > >> > petitioner, and
> > >> > requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"
>
> > >> They'er trying this in Texas and Louisana too.  Banning
> > >> information from classrooms and textbooks is a major
> > >> right wing cause.  Creationists try to ban the teaching
> > >> of evolution.  Racists try to prevent pictures of non-white
> > >> peoples in textbooks.  In Texas, right wing nuts on the
> > >> state school board plan to remove references to the
> > >> "Age of Enlightenment" and Thomas Jefferson from
> > >> history textbooks.
>
> > > The same Conservatives who claim global warming isn't happening have
> > > also decided that the jury is still out on Evolution. The conservative
> > > conclusion on GW, which, and I'm sure this is just an amazing
> > > coincidence, is precisely the same conclusion as groups funded by the
> > > oil and gas industries, is that it isn't happening, and even if it
> > > looks like it's happening it still isn't happening, couldn't happen.
> > > Al Gore made it all up. You can tell it's a lie because it still snows
> > > in North Dakota in January and who needs a computer model to see that,
> > > right? Paradoxically, they still occasionally whip out "The sun is
> > > responsible for it" in the middle of all the denials that it is
> > > happening. Fortunately, the far right is blessed with followers who
> > > have the logic chopping abilities of house sparrows and the
> > > contradiction passes unnoticed. The right has decided that scientists
> > > don't know anything about numbers or global trends or temperatures or
> > > anything and the world would be better off listening to REAL climate
> > > experts like Sean Hannity and JD Hayworth. Why spend years in college
> > > and decades studying climate and meteorology when you can get all the
> > > info you need on the "global warming" myth just by just turning on Fox
> > > news at night or picking up a leaflet from some think tank funded by
> > > The American Petroleum Institute?
>
> > What an idiot.
>
> > Climate change does happen.  What we're debating about is if man's puny
> > little efforts have any effect on it.  If so, then why wasn't the climate
> > markedly warmer in the 50's, with all that killer fog around London, eh?
>
> > Also, if Evolution is a proven theory, when did they publish the proof for
> > macroevolution?  Most theories require proof to move from a theory to a
> > fact.
>
> > Unless you're the missing link, they haven't.
>
> > Since you seem to be another of those Marxist ranters, you're going into the
> > blockfile.  Apparently, you, too, have nothing to add to this discussion
> > except the bs you get from the dailykospiece.
>
> > Say hello to your Uncle Joe.
>
> > Charles Grozny
>
> > Charles Grozny
>
> Show me two papers, one that disproves evolution and one that
> disproves global warming.
>
> And what papers they would be!  They would be published in any
> magazine!  Their authors would be famous!
>
> To disprove evolution?  Why that would mean that most of biology
> doesn't work.  That would be a shock to every bio group in the world.
> But if they had the facts.....
>
> To disprove global warming?  What that would change our idea of
> instrumentation!  But if they had the facts....
>
> But they don't have the facts.  Repugs don't have a single fact.
>
> Evolution is real.
>
> Global warming is all too real.
>
> And butt monkies like the above author are too stupid to get the
> point.
>
> There is no point.  There is no scientific opposition to evolution,
> you can see it working every day.  There is no scientific opposition
> to global warming.
>
> Now go and take the medicines that your psychiatrist prescribed for
> you.

AGW advocates are so desperate to avoid discussing the phoney science
underlying their religious conviction to AGW that they make false
comparisons between evolotion and climatology which are very
different, distinct disciplines.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:36:49 -0400, Cliff wrote:

> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-group-climate-change
> "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
> "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based petitioner,
> and
> requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"

Sounds good to me.

If you or Al Gore actually knew anything, you'd know that this bout of
"Global Warming" is cyclic and happens every 150,000 years. Followed by an
extreme Ice Age (not to be confused with a minor "Glaciation period".

"Global Warming" is a term used mostly by scientists with agendas,
politicians, and people who don't know any better.

If you take the time to Google "Vostok Ice Core data" and can actually
read a chart you wouldn't post the propaganda you saw fit to attach to
this message.

But, I have a feeling you swallow everything Liberals tell you hook, line
and sinker anyway.



From: edspyhill01 on
On May 29, 8:20 am, Christopher Helms <Chrishelms...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 29, 4:54 am, Roger Coppock <rcopp...(a)adnc.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 29, 2:36 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw...(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om>
> > wrote:
>
> > >http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-grou....
> > >   "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
> > >   "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based petitioner, and
> > > requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"
>
> > They'er trying this in Texas and Louisana too.  Banning
> > information from classrooms and textbooks is a major
> > right wing cause.  Creationists try to ban the teaching
> > of evolution.  Racists try to prevent pictures of non-white
> > peoples in textbooks.  In Texas, right wing nuts on the
> > state school board plan to remove references to the
> > "Age of Enlightenment" and Thomas Jefferson from
> > history textbooks.
>
> The same Conservatives who claim global warming isn't happening have
> also decided that the jury is still out on Evolution. The conservative
> conclusion on GW, which, and I'm sure this is just an amazing
> coincidence, is precisely the same conclusion as groups funded by the
> oil and gas industries, is that it isn't happening, and even if it
> looks like it's happening it still isn't happening, couldn't happen.
> Al Gore made it all up. You can tell it's a lie because it still snows
> in North Dakota in January and who needs a computer model to see that,
> right? Paradoxically, they still occasionally whip out "The sun is
> responsible for it" in the middle of all the denials that it is
> happening. Fortunately, the far right is blessed with followers who
> have the logic chopping abilities of house sparrows and the
> contradiction passes unnoticed. The right has decided that scientists
> don't know anything about numbers or global trends or temperatures or
> anything and the world would be better off listening to REAL climate
> experts like Sean Hannity and JD Hayworth. Why spend years in college
> and decades studying climate and meteorology when you can get all the
> info you need on the "global warming" myth just by just turning on Fox
> news at night or picking up a leaflet from some think tank funded by
> The American Petroleum Institute?- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Remember, book knowledge is evil.
From: Gunner Asch on
On Sat, 29 May 2010 14:09:01 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS>
wrote:

>On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:36:49 -0400, Cliff wrote:
>
>> http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-group-climate-change
>> "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
>> "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based petitioner,
>> and
>> requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"
>
>Sounds good to me.
>
>If you or Al Gore actually knew anything, you'd know that this bout of
>"Global Warming" is cyclic and happens every 150,000 years. Followed by an
>extreme Ice Age (not to be confused with a minor "Glaciation period".
>
>"Global Warming" is a term used mostly by scientists with agendas,
>politicians, and people who don't know any better.
>
>If you take the time to Google "Vostok Ice Core data" and can actually
>read a chart you wouldn't post the propaganda you saw fit to attach to
>this message.
>
>But, I have a feeling you swallow everything Liberals tell you hook, line
>and sinker anyway.
>

Of course. Cliff is a well known Useful Idiot.

Ive had him kill filed for over 5 yrs now as a waste of bytes.

Id suggest doing the same..but..shrug...if you need a typical
representative of the Far Leftwing Extremist Fringe Kooks to have
around...keep him.


Gunner

>

--


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost
From: Shall not be infringed on
On May 29, 2:09 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 May 2010 05:36:49 -0400, Cliff wrote:
> >http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2010/may/28/rightwing-grou...
> > "Rightwing group seeks to strip climate change from US classrooms"
> > "Climate change is a 'liberal' cause, argues Colorado-based petitioner,
> > and
> > requires a 'balancing' counterpoint"
>
> Sounds good to me.
>
> If you or Al Gore actually knew anything, you'd know that this bout of
> "Global Warming" is cyclic and happens every 150,000 years. Followed by an
> extreme Ice Age (not to be confused with a minor "Glaciation period".
>
> "Global Warming" is a term used mostly by scientists with agendas,
> politicians, and people who don't know any better.
>
> If you take the time to Google "Vostok Ice Core data" and can actually
> read a chart you wouldn't post the propaganda you saw fit to attach to
> this message.

Vostock being the Russian anarctic research station.

> But, I have a feeling you swallow everything Liberals tell you hook, line
> and sinker anyway.

It's kind of sad how guillable Cliffie is.