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From: Vic Smith on 29 Jan 2010 00:52 On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:23:02 -0500, clare(a)snyder.on.ca wrote: > >Hey, I agree with you 100% - but the reality for me has been I don't >GET the same reliability. Nor has anyone in my family, or many of my >friends. If you buy NEW vehicles and keep them 5 years, GM is mabee >as good as Ford or Chrysler. In some ways mabee even better. But >buying 5 year old vehicles I've not found that to be true. The cost of >operation for the second and third five year period is higher. >Significantly. And Cadilac? Don't even get me started. > You have to talk specific cars. Saying GM, Chrysler, Ford don't do it. Lots of variation. You couldn't give me a Cadillac. My son takes care of his gal's 1990-something Caddy - think it's a Deville. He's done some work on it, and his main complaint is the parts cost. But he loves wrenching. I stick with Chevys, though I also have a '93 Grand Am in my garage. Going to dump the '90 Corsica. Still runs good and looks decent, but I dropped the insurance this month. Just too old, and the headliner if coming down. The Grand Am is a much nicer ride. 3500 engine. And I paid $3500 for it about 7 years ago. Had about 80k miles on it, now at 140k miles. Bought it for a daughter who was commuting Chicago/Champagne every weekend while in college. Never did anything but brakes on it, but it threw a quad 4 driver code on her a couple times, and stalled. And the A/C gave up. Then she suddenly graduated, got a job teaching and left the car at my house saying it wouldn't move off right away when you pressed the gas. Didn't want it. She already had a Corolla then. When it warmed up my son saw a puddle of trans fluid under it. Leaky trans pan gasket, which he replaced. That's why it was giving her problems - trans fluid was almost off the stick. A steth pinned down an engine noise to the water pump, and we replaced that. Unlike the 3.1's had to jack the engine and take off a motor mount to get at the pump. So it was a 2 hour job versus a 15 minute job. It sounds real sweet now, but I haven't driven it enough to know what's in store. Though it hasn't happened to me yet, the quad 4 driver issue isn't resolved. Free car now anyway. But I don't know what you mean about GM's "The cost of operation for the second and third five year period is higher." Means nothing without talking about a specific car and the specific repair. At $2500-3500 for the car, it's already 5-10 years old anyway. I usually expect to get only another 5-10 years before rust gets it. Rinse and repeat. --Vic |