Toyota Throttle Electronics Easily Confused
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From: Toyota on 26 Feb 2010 01:45 On Feb 25, 6:15 am, jim beam <m...(a)privacy.net> wrote: > On 02/24/2010 09:19 PM, Uncle_vito wrote: > > > Made in Japan only applies to the accelerator fix. If it is a software > > problem, all bets are off. Could be in cars no matter where made since they > > do noit know the cause. How can they say which cars are not affected? > > dude, it it were a software problem, /all/ their vehicles would be > exhibiting the exact same problem all the time. that may be a hard > concept for a paid congressional "witness" to grasp, but it's a logical > test you can apply and understand easily. > > > > > > > > > Vito > > > "Mr Ed"<eca...(a)earthlink.net> wrote in message > >news:H9KdnXTvQ_hTFBjWnZ2dnUVZ_jCdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com... > >> Years ago I had a Chrysler product that developed a engine problem that > >> created a code. After that the car would only max out at 20mph. Just > >> enough to limp into the dealer to fix or re-set the code. 20 years ago > >> before I retired, I tested eletronic products for Test House approvals > >> (UL, ETL, CSA, etc). Our purpose was to assure that no matter what > >> internal device failed, it didn't create a deadly problem. Why can't > >> Toyota prove that no matter what component failed, short or open, that the > >> car will not exceed a safe speed? I don't believe they did their homework > >> properly. Removing my floor mat in my Prius is a joke. There is no way it > >> can jam the pedal that my foot on the mat couldn't move it away from the > >> pedal within seconds. The only reason I removed it (per the recall) is so > >> if my car becomes a run away missile at least my heirs can become > >> Millionaires. That doesn't comfort me. Re-designing the pedal is only a > >> band-aide to the real problem. Since my car was made in Japan, I'm not > >> included. > > >> Mr Ed > >>http://www.ed-camin.com > >>http://home.earthlink.net/~bcamin/betty.htm > >>http://www.mountairykiwanis.org > >>http://www.ma-artleague.org > >>http://home.earthlink.net/~j3dogs/index.htm > >>http://home.earthlink.net/~donnahayes/index.htm > >> "JoeSpareBedroom"<newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message > >>news:4ifhn.17771$Dv7.16146(a)newsfe17.iad... > >>> "Hachiroku ????"<Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > >>>news:hm3v6o$qkn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >>>> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 06:55:23 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > > >>>>> "jim beam"<m...(a)privacy.net> wrote in message > >>>>>news:o4SdnZnR94D1KBnWnZ2dnUVZ_j6dnZ2d(a)speakeasy.net... > >>>>>> On 02/23/2010 05:47 PM, john wrote: > >>>>>>> The floor mats and sticking pedal accounts for only 30% of the > >>>>>>> problems. The true cause of sudden acceleration is still not known so > >>>>>>> no real solution is possible. IMO it's the electronics. > > >>>>>> "in your opinion"? are you a software engineer? are you an > >>>>>> electrical > >>>>>> engineer? are you /any/ form of engineer? > > >>>>> He can swap a hard drive while blindfolded, and he knows some > >>>>> geologists. > > >>>> Look again. You're talking about the wrong person. > > >>>> Gee, you've NEVER been wrong before!!! > > >>> Oops. > > -- > nomina rutrum rutrum here are some good technical videos http://toyotabrakerecall.org/showthread.php?p=126#post126
From: Tegger on 26 Feb 2010 07:37 bob <nottooslow42(a)yahoo.com> wrote in news:MPG.25f0fc8296f4fada989751(a)news.eternal-september.org: > In article <Xns9D2ACD6CCA8C7tegger(a)208.90.168.18>, invalid(a)invalid.inv > says... >> >> >> >> But it is officially classed by the federal government as a "light >> truck", so my terminology is accurate as far as the legal definitions >> are concerned. > > Tegger, > > OK. Perhaps were should call it a compact cross-over SUV:-) At least > that's what most of the auto rags call it. > "Compact cross-over SUV" (or "CUV") it is, then. Amend my original reply to say that instead of "truck". -- Tegger
From: Tegger on 26 Feb 2010 09:28 "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in news:FcSdnXZHMbw4yRrWnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com: > So I still content that if you are going to rant and rave > about how dangerous Explorers were, then you need to rant and rave > about 4Runners as well (and other also - like 2WD S10 Blazer). And be willing to admit that any tall vehicle is, by its very nature, more likely to roll over than any short vehicle, regardless of who made it. It is not possible to drive a 6.5'-tall SUV like you would a 4.5'-tall coupe, and expect to be able to keep the shiny side up all the time. -- Tegger
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 26 Feb 2010 09:35 "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message news:Xns9D2B60597CD01tegger(a)208.90.168.18... > "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote in > news:FcSdnXZHMbw4yRrWnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d(a)earthlink.com: > >> So I still content that if you are going to rant and rave >> about how dangerous Explorers were, then you need to rant and rave >> about 4Runners as well (and other also - like 2WD S10 Blazer). > > > > And be willing to admit that any tall vehicle is, by its very nature, more > likely to roll over than any short vehicle, regardless of who made it. > > It is not possible to drive a 6.5'-tall SUV like you would a 4.5'-tall > coupe, and expect to be able to keep the shiny side up all the time. > > > -- > Tegger > Are you trying to introduce basic physics into this discussion? :)
From: hls on 26 Feb 2010 12:17
"Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:hm764e$stp$6(a)news.eternal- > > Interesting post. That's what I get for listening to NBC News. > > No, I don't have any pix, but the Denso pedals don't seem to have the > problem I heard the same sort of thing, and believe they said the Nipponese pedals had metal instead of plastic. Should be able to google it. |