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From: Ray O on 9 Dec 2009 13:28 "FatterDumber& Happier Moe" <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote in message news:4b1f77c0$0$5318$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net... > Devil's Advocate wrote: >> On my 93 Corolla, I asked Midas how much it would cost to pull the >> instrument panel out and change all the bulbs behind it. They said $150! >> >> Seriously? >> >> Whew. >> >> Is this something that's not so hard to do myself??? >> > > That damn under the dash and behind the dash work is not anyones favorite > thing to do. You have to be a near sighted anorexic triple jointed > contortionist to do some of those jobs and there is always the risk of > breaking or disconnecting something accidentally when you do this kind of > thing all the while worrying about getting your dirty shoes on the > headliner or seat backs (please, no snide comments about foot prints on > the headliner). > I suppose the question is why do you want to replace all the bulbs? > If only one needs replacing, replace it and worry about the others when > or if they go out. > If I did have something like this done I'd find some place other than > Midas to do it. Fortunately, it is probably not necessary to climb under the dashboard to change the bulbs in the instrument cluster. If you look at the black plastic surrounding the instrument cluster, you will probably see 2 or 4 Phillips head screws. Remove the screws, remove the black plastic, pull the cluster to get to the bulbs. Probably takes less than 15 minutes. -- Ray O (correct punctuation to reply)
From: Jeff Strickland on 9 Dec 2009 15:46 "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:ECSTm.47814$tz6.23895(a)newsfe02.iad... > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:hforc4$f97$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "FatterDumber& Happier Moe" <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote in >> message news:4b1f77c0$0$5318$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net... >>> If I did have something like this done I'd find some place other than >>> Midas to do it. >> >> Ding, ding, ding! >> >> This is the right answer. >> >> As for dong the job at home, it should be easy enough to find the two or >> four screws that hold the cluster in place, look around the cluster face. >> >> Consider the fact that somebody had to build the car in the first place, >> and they have to build several dozen per shift (or more) so it has to be >> easy. If there are no visible screws, then there should be a panel >> surrounding the steering column where it disappears into the dashboard, >> this panel should be held in by clips that you can get loose by GENTLY >> using a flat tool to GENTLY pry -- I'd start at the bottom. Remember, >> GENTLY is the operative word. Screws holding the cluster in will become >> visible when the surround is removed. >> >> If you can't find the screws that secure the cluster and you still have >> your heart set on replacing all of the bulbs, DO NOT have Midas do the >> job. You will be far happier developing a relationship with the trained >> independent Toyota guy in your town. > > > He'd also be well advised to avoid doing it himself if he lives in a cold > climate and he doesn't have a heated garage. Plastic becomes brittle at > lower temperatures, and he could end up being a very unhappy person if he > starts breaking off screw tabs and having to listen to new rattles until > he finally sells the car. > I don't bother advising people of those kinds of things because if they live in a cold climate, they already know. Do you need to be reminded of this sort of stuff? Why do you think others need to be reminded? Nobody is as goofy as you are, and you don't need the reminder, surely they don't need it either.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 9 Dec 2009 15:52 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hfp2b7$d74$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message > news:ECSTm.47814$tz6.23895(a)newsfe02.iad... >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:hforc4$f97$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "FatterDumber& Happier Moe" <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote in >>> message news:4b1f77c0$0$5318$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net... >>>> If I did have something like this done I'd find some place other than >>>> Midas to do it. >>> >>> Ding, ding, ding! >>> >>> This is the right answer. >>> >>> As for dong the job at home, it should be easy enough to find the two or >>> four screws that hold the cluster in place, look around the cluster >>> face. >>> >>> Consider the fact that somebody had to build the car in the first place, >>> and they have to build several dozen per shift (or more) so it has to be >>> easy. If there are no visible screws, then there should be a panel >>> surrounding the steering column where it disappears into the dashboard, >>> this panel should be held in by clips that you can get loose by GENTLY >>> using a flat tool to GENTLY pry -- I'd start at the bottom. Remember, >>> GENTLY is the operative word. Screws holding the cluster in will become >>> visible when the surround is removed. >>> >>> If you can't find the screws that secure the cluster and you still have >>> your heart set on replacing all of the bulbs, DO NOT have Midas do the >>> job. You will be far happier developing a relationship with the trained >>> independent Toyota guy in your town. >> >> >> He'd also be well advised to avoid doing it himself if he lives in a cold >> climate and he doesn't have a heated garage. Plastic becomes brittle at >> lower temperatures, and he could end up being a very unhappy person if he >> starts breaking off screw tabs and having to listen to new rattles until >> he finally sells the car. >> > > I don't bother advising people of those kinds of things because if they > live in a cold climate, they already know. I don't like conjecture and neither should you. But you'll say pretty much anything to "win".
From: Sharx35 on 9 Dec 2009 17:14 "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:d6UTm.18472$y%5.6232(a)newsfe03.iad... > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:hfp2b7$d74$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message >> news:ECSTm.47814$tz6.23895(a)newsfe02.iad... >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:hforc4$f97$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> "FatterDumber& Happier Moe" <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote >>>> in message news:4b1f77c0$0$5318$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net... >>>>> If I did have something like this done I'd find some place other >>>>> than Midas to do it. >>>> >>>> Ding, ding, ding! >>>> >>>> This is the right answer. >>>> >>>> As for dong the job at home, it should be easy enough to find the two >>>> or four screws that hold the cluster in place, look around the cluster >>>> face. >>>> >>>> Consider the fact that somebody had to build the car in the first >>>> place, and they have to build several dozen per shift (or more) so it >>>> has to be easy. If there are no visible screws, then there should be a >>>> panel surrounding the steering column where it disappears into the >>>> dashboard, this panel should be held in by clips that you can get loose >>>> by GENTLY using a flat tool to GENTLY pry -- I'd start at the bottom. >>>> Remember, GENTLY is the operative word. Screws holding the cluster in >>>> will become visible when the surround is removed. >>>> >>>> If you can't find the screws that secure the cluster and you still have >>>> your heart set on replacing all of the bulbs, DO NOT have Midas do the >>>> job. You will be far happier developing a relationship with the trained >>>> independent Toyota guy in your town. >>> >>> >>> He'd also be well advised to avoid doing it himself if he lives in a >>> cold climate and he doesn't have a heated garage. Plastic becomes >>> brittle at lower temperatures, and he could end up being a very unhappy >>> person if he starts breaking off screw tabs and having to listen to new >>> rattles until he finally sells the car. >>> >> >> I don't bother advising people of those kinds of things because if they >> live in a cold climate, they already know. > > > I don't like conjecture and neither should you. But you'll say pretty much > anything to "win". > Pot. Kettle. Black.
From: Devil's Advocate on 9 Dec 2009 19:48 > So, why ya changing all the bulbs ? One of them is burned out for a few years now, and makes it hard to read the speedometer at night. I may as well get them all if it's this much work. I think there are 4 or 5 in the instrument panel.
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