Roll Over Risk: Consumer Reports warns against 2010 Lexus GX460
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From: Wayne on 28 Apr 2010 14:15 "dsi1" <dsi1(a)spamnet.com> wrote in message news:8%%An.262739$K81.94998(a)newsfe18.iad... > On 4/25/2010 5:04 AM, me wrote: >> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:23:21 -1000, dsi1 >> <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapua'a.org> wrote: >> >>> On 4/23/2010 1:16 PM, me wrote: >>>> >>>> The key point is that the Lexus is more likely to roll over than >>>> comparable vehicles - not that high COG vehicles are more likely to >>>> roll over (which they are). >>> >>> My key point is that these high COG truck-based vehicles are more likely >>> to roll over. If that's a problem for you, don't buy one. Who cares if >>> one is worse than the others? It don't make the other vehicles any >>> safer. >> >> Some people actually NEED a utility "truck" that's high off the road >> (maybe 1% of SUV buyers). The rest of SUV buyers WANT an SUV, and are >> apparently unconcerned or ignorant of the COG issue and other inherent >> deficiencies in an SUV design. For all of them, it's useful to know >> that the Lexus is less stable than comparable vehicles. >> > > Apparently you're unconcerned or ignorant of the fact that you're twice as > likely to have a fatal rollover accident in an SUV than a car. What's your > point? That you're safer driving an Escalade? That's real logical. - One has to learn to drive the vehicle they have, in a safe manner. If that means going around the corner at 5 mph...that's the way it is. Same as driving a truck loaded with cargo that can possibly shift. It is not possible to "idiot proof" vehicles.
From: dsi1 on 28 Apr 2010 16:05
On 4/28/2010 8:15 AM, Wayne wrote: > "dsi1"<dsi1(a)spamnet.com> wrote in message > news:8%%An.262739$K81.94998(a)newsfe18.iad... >> On 4/25/2010 5:04 AM, me wrote: >>> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:23:21 -1000, dsi1 >>> <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapua'a.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 4/23/2010 1:16 PM, me wrote: >>>>> >>>>> The key point is that the Lexus is more likely to roll over than >>>>> comparable vehicles - not that high COG vehicles are more likely to >>>>> roll over (which they are). >>>> >>>> My key point is that these high COG truck-based vehicles are more likely >>>> to roll over. If that's a problem for you, don't buy one. Who cares if >>>> one is worse than the others? It don't make the other vehicles any >>>> safer. >>> >>> Some people actually NEED a utility "truck" that's high off the road >>> (maybe 1% of SUV buyers). The rest of SUV buyers WANT an SUV, and are >>> apparently unconcerned or ignorant of the COG issue and other inherent >>> deficiencies in an SUV design. For all of them, it's useful to know >>> that the Lexus is less stable than comparable vehicles. >>> >> >> Apparently you're unconcerned or ignorant of the fact that you're twice as >> likely to have a fatal rollover accident in an SUV than a car. What's your >> point? That you're safer driving an Escalade? That's real logical. > - > One has to learn to drive the vehicle they have, in a safe manner. If that > means going around the corner at 5 mph...that's the way it is. Same as > driving a truck loaded with cargo that can possibly shift. It is not > possible to "idiot proof" vehicles. They sure do! I'll see your 5 and lower it down to 3 MPH. I'll drive around a corner slower than anybody in the room. I dare you to drive slower than me. :-) I can drive one of these SUVs in a safe manner anyday. The one part I haven't figured out is what to do if I have to do a high speed evasive maneuver. Wish I was in a different vehicle would be my best guess. :-) I don't have any problem with SUVs, they are what they is. However, the Lexus GX460 tendency for rollovers does not make the other SUVs more resistant to the same behavior. |