Roll Over Risk: Consumer Reports warns against 2010 Lexus GX460
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From: homey on 18 Apr 2010 23:32 On 4/18/2010 2:10 PM, dsi1 wrote: > On 4/13/2010 5:48 PM, john wrote: >> Kinda makes you wonder what kind of junk they're building these days. >> >> >> "Consumer Reports, the widely respected arbiter of quality and >> reliability, urged customers not to buy the 2010 Lexus GX460 because >> it may roll over in certain situations based on tests by the >> magazine's automotive test drivers. >> >> This is the first time the magazine has issued a "don't buy" >> recommendation on any Toyota, Lexus or Scion vehicle." >> >> http://www.freep.com/article/20100413/BUSINESS01/4130334/1331/Consumer-Reports-Lexus-GX460-risk >> >> > > What's the big deal? Anybody that purchases a truck-based, high center > of gravity vehicle increases his chances for dying in a roll over > accident. This has always been the case. Don't buy any SUV unless you're > willing to accept that risk. Are you serious? LITERACY isn't a requirement for a drivers license. You really think center of gravity or truck-based or dying or risk register?
From: dsi1 on 19 Apr 2010 05:11 On 4/18/2010 5:32 PM, homey wrote: > On 4/18/2010 2:10 PM, dsi1 wrote: >> On 4/13/2010 5:48 PM, john wrote: >>> Kinda makes you wonder what kind of junk they're building these days. >>> >>> >>> "Consumer Reports, the widely respected arbiter of quality and >>> reliability, urged customers not to buy the 2010 Lexus GX460 because >>> it may roll over in certain situations based on tests by the >>> magazine's automotive test drivers. >>> >>> This is the first time the magazine has issued a "don't buy" >>> recommendation on any Toyota, Lexus or Scion vehicle." >>> >>> http://www.freep.com/article/20100413/BUSINESS01/4130334/1331/Consumer-Reports-Lexus-GX460-risk >>> >>> >>> >> >> What's the big deal? Anybody that purchases a truck-based, high center >> of gravity vehicle increases his chances for dying in a roll over >> accident. This has always been the case. Don't buy any SUV unless you're >> willing to accept that risk. > > Are you serious? LITERACY isn't a requirement for a drivers license. You > really think center of gravity or truck-based or dying or risk register? Sure, you need to be able to read to get a license. Not only that, my guess is that folks ought to be able to put 2 and 2 together. My understanding is that Toyota is gonna fix that nasty rollover problem by the use of more airbags. Of course, they're on the outside of the vehicle. :-)
From: Mike Hunter on 23 Apr 2010 19:50 What makes people think a vehicle with a center of gravity, an inch and a half high than a sedan, is more likely to roll over than the sedan? If the height of a vehicle was indeed "more likely to roll" then you should see box trucks, with a center of gravity that is five or six inches higher than a sedan, rolling over every day LOL "me" <noemail(a)nothere.com> wrote in message news:dea4t55evs39crooniqrf9lb47oi3dl874(a)4ax.com... > On Sun, 18 Apr 2010 23:11:13 -1000, dsi1 <dsi1(a)spamnet.com> wrote: > >>>> What's the big deal? Anybody that purchases a truck-based, high center >>>> of gravity vehicle increases his chances for dying in a roll over >>>> accident. This has always been the case. Don't buy any SUV unless >>>> you're >>>> willing to accept that risk. >>> >>> Are you serious? LITERACY isn't a requirement for a drivers license. You >>> really think center of gravity or truck-based or dying or risk register? >> >>Sure, you need to be able to read to get a license. Not only that, my >>guess is that folks ought to be able to put 2 and 2 together. >> >>My understanding is that Toyota is gonna fix that nasty rollover problem >>by the use of more airbags. Of course, they're on the outside of the >>vehicle. :-) > > The key point is that the Lexus is more likely to roll over than > comparable vehicles - not that high COG vehicles are more likely to > roll over (which they are).
From: dsi1 on 23 Apr 2010 21:23 On 4/23/2010 1:16 PM, me wrote: > > The key point is that the Lexus is more likely to roll over than > comparable vehicles - not that high COG vehicles are more likely to > roll over (which they are). My key point is that these high COG truck-based vehicles are more likely to roll over. If that's a problem for you, don't buy one. Who cares if one is worse than the others? It don't make the other vehicles any safer.
From: dsi1 on 25 Apr 2010 14:38
On 4/25/2010 5:04 AM, me wrote: > On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 15:23:21 -1000, dsi1 > <dsi1(a)humuhumunukunukuapua'a.org> wrote: > >> On 4/23/2010 1:16 PM, me wrote: >>> >>> The key point is that the Lexus is more likely to roll over than >>> comparable vehicles - not that high COG vehicles are more likely to >>> roll over (which they are). >> >> My key point is that these high COG truck-based vehicles are more likely >> to roll over. If that's a problem for you, don't buy one. Who cares if >> one is worse than the others? It don't make the other vehicles any safer. > > Some people actually NEED a utility "truck" that's high off the road > (maybe 1% of SUV buyers). The rest of SUV buyers WANT an SUV, and are > apparently unconcerned or ignorant of the COG issue and other inherent > deficiencies in an SUV design. For all of them, it's useful to know > that the Lexus is less stable than comparable vehicles. > Apparently you're unconcerned or ignorant of the fact that you're twice as likely to have a fatal rollover accident in an SUV than a car. What's your point? That you're safer driving an Escalade? That's real logical. |