From: Mike Hunter on
That may be your opinion but apparently the NHTSA thinks something is wrong,
it is fining Toyota millions of dollars for violating NHTSA rules for
reporting safety defects.


"dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:7MqdndacBLJQvFvWnZ2dnUVZ_osAAAAA(a)giganews.com...
> In article <hq42p3$3vn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:wpKdnfBKptJUGVjWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>> > In article <4bc54f03$0$12432$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net>,
>> > FatterDumber& Happier Moe <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote:
>> >
>> >> john wrote:
>> >> > Kinda makes you wonder what kind of junk they're building these
>> >> > days.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Consumer Reports, the widely respected arbiter of quality and
>> >> > reliability, urged customers not to buy the 2010 Lexus GX460 because
>> >> > it may roll over in certain situations based on tests by the
>> >> > magazine's automotive test drivers.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is the first time the magazine has issued a "don't buy"
>> >> > recommendation on any Toyota, Lexus or Scion vehicle."
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.freep.com/article/20100413/BUSINESS01/4130334/1331/Consumer-Re
>> >> > por
>> >> > ts-Lexus-GX460-risk
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> I'm beginning to think there just might be something to the
>> >> conspirators' theory that someone is out to "get" Toyota.
>> >> Gov't, UAW, and banksters with financial interests in the new GM can
>> >> pull a lot of levers and push a lot of buttons when they want to.
>> >
>> > Exactly. The big unions along with this administration (ray-duh-hood)
>> > and it's taxpayer money wants to get rid of the completion.
>> > --
>> >
>> Or just maybe all the rumors of secret recalls and coverups over the
>> years
>> were really true???????
>
> Are you referring to GM??
>
> I own a 04 Toyota Sienna and I still have an outstanding recall on a
> seat belt for the rear passenger seat. They bug me about it when I get
> the oil changed, but I don't feel like going to the trouble of
> re-installing the seat for it so I pass. They keep bugging me though.
> I don't have any notion that Toyota is covering anything up.
> --
>


From: Mike Hunter on
Perhaps but the rules were in place long before BO took office. We were
living by those rules way back when I was designing cars, in the seventies


"dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> In article <4bc63ca1$0$19650$ce5e7886(a)news-radius.ptd.net>,
> "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote:
>
>> That may be your opinion but apparently the NHTSA thinks something is
>> wrong,
>> it is fining Toyota millions of dollars for violating NHTSA rules for
>> reporting safety defects.
>
> I don't trust the obama administration with anything.
>
>
>>
>>
>> "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:7MqdndacBLJQvFvWnZ2dnUVZ_osAAAAA(a)giganews.com...
>> > In article <hq42p3$3vn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>> > "Tom" <tc(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> "dbu''" <nospam(a)nobama.com.invalid> wrote in message
>> >> news:wpKdnfBKptJUGVjWnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>> >> > In article <4bc54f03$0$12432$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net>,
>> >> > FatterDumber& Happier Moe <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> john wrote:
>> >> >> > Kinda makes you wonder what kind of junk they're building these
>> >> >> > days.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Consumer Reports, the widely respected arbiter of quality and
>> >> >> > reliability, urged customers not to buy the 2010 Lexus GX460
>> >> >> > because
>> >> >> > it may roll over in certain situations based on tests by the
>> >> >> > magazine's automotive test drivers.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > This is the first time the magazine has issued a "don't buy"
>> >> >> > recommendation on any Toyota, Lexus or Scion vehicle."
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > http://www.freep.com/article/20100413/BUSINESS01/4130334/1331/Consumer
>> >> >> > -Re
>> >> >> > por
>> >> >> > ts-Lexus-GX460-risk
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm beginning to think there just might be something to the
>> >> >> conspirators' theory that someone is out to "get" Toyota.
>> >> >> Gov't, UAW, and banksters with financial interests in the new GM
>> >> >> can
>> >> >> pull a lot of levers and push a lot of buttons when they want to.
>> >> >
>> >> > Exactly. The big unions along with this administration
>> >> > (ray-duh-hood)
>> >> > and it's taxpayer money wants to get rid of the completion.
>> >> > --
>> >> >
>> >> Or just maybe all the rumors of secret recalls and coverups over the
>> >> years
>> >> were really true???????
>> >
>> > Are you referring to GM??
>> >
>> > I own a 04 Toyota Sienna and I still have an outstanding recall on a
>> > seat belt for the rear passenger seat. They bug me about it when I get
>> > the oil changed, but I don't feel like going to the trouble of
>> > re-installing the seat for it so I pass. They keep bugging me though.
>> > I don't have any notion that Toyota is covering anything up.
>> > --
>> >
> --
>


From: chuckcar on
john <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in
news:871f31f3-9417-4fd4-94b6-b629f6f424ad(a)j21g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:

> Kinda makes you wonder what kind of junk they're building these days.
>
>
> "Consumer Reports, the widely respected arbiter of quality and
> reliability, urged customers not to buy the 2010 Lexus GX460 because
> it may roll over in certain situations based on tests by the
> magazine's automotive test drivers.
>
> This is the first time the magazine has issued a "don't buy"
> recommendation on any Toyota, Lexus or Scion vehicle."
>
> http://www.freep.com/article/20100413/BUSINESS01/4130334/1331/Consumer-
> Reports-Lexus-GX460-risk
>
>
Hmm. Interesting. A SUV that could roll over if it's driven hard. Who'd
have known? Sorry, but without a whole bunch of driving controls such as
stability control turned on, it can happen with any SUV if anyone drives
enough like an idiot..


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From: mcbrue on
The computer is slow to kick in and control the vehicle. Seems there
is a computer problem with the acceleration and braking problems also.
And my kamikazee kar kicks in slow when I floor it. Anyone see any
pattern here? Well, I am asking about a pattern with the computer
thingies. The pattern of Japanese warfare against the world is very
clear, of course. Remember that the Japanese claim that Business is
war, so this old traditional emire oriented family is engaged in war.
Hmmm ... computer as weapon?
From: dsi1 on
On 4/13/2010 5:48 PM, john wrote:
> Kinda makes you wonder what kind of junk they're building these days.
>
>
> "Consumer Reports, the widely respected arbiter of quality and
> reliability, urged customers not to buy the 2010 Lexus GX460 because
> it may roll over in certain situations based on tests by the
> magazine's automotive test drivers.
>
> This is the first time the magazine has issued a "don't buy"
> recommendation on any Toyota, Lexus or Scion vehicle."
>
> http://www.freep.com/article/20100413/BUSINESS01/4130334/1331/Consumer-Reports-Lexus-GX460-risk
>

What's the big deal? Anybody that purchases a truck-based, high center
of gravity vehicle increases his chances for dying in a roll over
accident. This has always been the case. Don't buy any SUV unless you're
willing to accept that risk.
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