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From: Damaeus on 5 Apr 2010 19:47
In news:alt.autos.toyota.camry, dsarvas(a)yahoo.com posted on Mon, 22 Mar
2010 15:36:06 GMT the following:

> Since I bought my "07 Camry, when I push the recirc button to prevent
> outside air from flowing into the cabin, it will go off after awhile
> and outside air starts to come through. I took it in while it was
> under warranty but the first time they told me they didn't have anyone
> at the Toyota agency that day who could work on electronics. I took
> it back again and they couldn't figure out the source of the problem.

Mine ('07 Camry LE) does the same thing if I don't have the temperature
setting all the way over to cold. I prefer recirculating air that's in
the cabin, because it seems like if I keep pulling air from the outside, I
get a runny nose and start sneezing. The air filter thing is just a
selling point. It doesn't actually work, by the way.

> It's an intermittent problem so I understand the difficulty for them
> to track it down, but since they couldn't figure it out, I was
> surprised they didn't offer to replace the unit since the car was
> under warranty. My own fault for not pushing it. I just took the car
> in to have a couple recall items fixed and asked that they try again,
> but they couldn't identify the source of the problem.

It's probably designed to work that way. The recirculate in most cars was
meant to actually get the air colder and less humid than you could get it
if you were sucking in hot air from the outside. I know when I run on
Max/Recirculate, the air is, indeed, colder. So the people who designed
the electronics might have assumed that if you don't actually have the
temperature set to be very cold, then you don't really want or need to
recirculate the air.

I haven't actually tested this with a timer, but I notice that if I set my
temperature higher on the thermostat, it takes less time for recirculate
to be deactivated.

Damaeus
--
"Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."
White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986
From: MLD on 6 Apr 2010 09:29

"Damaeus" <no-mail(a)damaeus.earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
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> In news:alt.autos.toyota.camry, dsarvas(a)yahoo.com posted on Mon, 22 Mar
> 2010 15:36:06 GMT the following:
>
>> Since I bought my "07 Camry, when I push the recirc button to prevent
>> outside air from flowing into the cabin, it will go off after awhile
>> and outside air starts to come through. I took it in while it was
>> under warranty but the first time they told me they didn't have anyone
>> at the Toyota agency that day who could work on electronics. I took
>> it back again and they couldn't figure out the source of the problem.
>
> Mine ('07 Camry LE) does the same thing if I don't have the temperature
> setting all the way over to cold. I prefer recirculating air that's in
> the cabin, because it seems like if I keep pulling air from the outside, I
> get a runny nose and start sneezing. The air filter thing is just a
> selling point. It doesn't actually work, by the way.
>
>> It's an intermittent problem so I understand the difficulty for them
>> to track it down, but since they couldn't figure it out, I was
>> surprised they didn't offer to replace the unit since the car was
>> under warranty. My own fault for not pushing it. I just took the car
>> in to have a couple recall items fixed and asked that they try again,
>> but they couldn't identify the source of the problem.
>
> It's probably designed to work that way. The recirculate in most cars was
> meant to actually get the air colder and less humid than you could get it
> if you were sucking in hot air from the outside. I know when I run on
> Max/Recirculate, the air is, indeed, colder. So the people who designed
> the electronics might have assumed that if you don't actually have the
> temperature set to be very cold, then you don't really want or need to
> recirculate the air.
>
> I haven't actually tested this with a timer, but I notice that if I set my
> temperature higher on the thermostat, it takes less time for recirculate
> to be deactivated.
>
> Damaeus
> --
> "Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."
> White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986

08 Avalon--the recirc system has a mind of it's own. It's obviously
programmed to be OFF\ON as a function of: Outside air temp, cabin air temp.
temp control setting and whatever else it takes into consideration. I think
I've figured out some of it's quirks but not all of them.
MLD

From: Sharx35 on 6 Apr 2010 16:21


"MLD" <MLD(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Damaeus" <no-mail(a)damaeus.earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
> news:nctkr55kq64fg12700vu84nqd7upntikhs(a)4ax.com...
>> In news:alt.autos.toyota.camry, dsarvas(a)yahoo.com posted on Mon, 22 Mar
>> 2010 15:36:06 GMT the following:
>>
>>> Since I bought my "07 Camry, when I push the recirc button to prevent
>>> outside air from flowing into the cabin, it will go off after awhile
>>> and outside air starts to come through. I took it in while it was
>>> under warranty but the first time they told me they didn't have anyone
>>> at the Toyota agency that day who could work on electronics. I took
>>> it back again and they couldn't figure out the source of the problem.
>>
>> Mine ('07 Camry LE) does the same thing if I don't have the temperature
>> setting all the way over to cold. I prefer recirculating air that's in
>> the cabin, because it seems like if I keep pulling air from the outside,
>> I
>> get a runny nose and start sneezing. The air filter thing is just a
>> selling point. It doesn't actually work, by the way.
>>
>>> It's an intermittent problem so I understand the difficulty for them
>>> to track it down, but since they couldn't figure it out, I was
>>> surprised they didn't offer to replace the unit since the car was
>>> under warranty. My own fault for not pushing it. I just took the car
>>> in to have a couple recall items fixed and asked that they try again,
>>> but they couldn't identify the source of the problem.
>>
>> It's probably designed to work that way. The recirculate in most cars
>> was
>> meant to actually get the air colder and less humid than you could get it
>> if you were sucking in hot air from the outside. I know when I run on
>> Max/Recirculate, the air is, indeed, colder. So the people who designed
>> the electronics might have assumed that if you don't actually have the
>> temperature set to be very cold, then you don't really want or need to
>> recirculate the air.
>>
>> I haven't actually tested this with a timer, but I notice that if I set
>> my
>> temperature higher on the thermostat, it takes less time for recirculate
>> to be deactivated.
>>
>> Damaeus
>> --
>> "Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."
>> White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986
>
> 08 Avalon--the recirc system has a mind of it's own. It's obviously
> programmed to be OFF\ON as a function of: Outside air temp, cabin air
> temp. temp control setting and whatever else it takes into consideration.
> I think I've figured out some of it's quirks but not all of them.
> MLD


Does the manual as in RTFM have much to say? Or the applicable web site for
the vehicle?


>
From: MLD on 7 Apr 2010 09:37

"Sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "MLD" <MLD(a)verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:hpfd1m$ev9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Damaeus" <no-mail(a)damaeus.earthlink.invalid> wrote in message
>> news:nctkr55kq64fg12700vu84nqd7upntikhs(a)4ax.com...
>>> In news:alt.autos.toyota.camry, dsarvas(a)yahoo.com posted on Mon, 22 Mar
>>> 2010 15:36:06 GMT the following:
>>>
>>>> Since I bought my "07 Camry, when I push the recirc button to prevent
>>>> outside air from flowing into the cabin, it will go off after awhile
>>>> and outside air starts to come through. I took it in while it was
>>>> under warranty but the first time they told me they didn't have anyone
>>>> at the Toyota agency that day who could work on electronics. I took
>>>> it back again and they couldn't figure out the source of the problem.
>>>
>>> Mine ('07 Camry LE) does the same thing if I don't have the temperature
>>> setting all the way over to cold. I prefer recirculating air that's in
>>> the cabin, because it seems like if I keep pulling air from the outside,
>>> I
>>> get a runny nose and start sneezing. The air filter thing is just a
>>> selling point. It doesn't actually work, by the way.
>>>
>>>> It's an intermittent problem so I understand the difficulty for them
>>>> to track it down, but since they couldn't figure it out, I was
>>>> surprised they didn't offer to replace the unit since the car was
>>>> under warranty. My own fault for not pushing it. I just took the car
>>>> in to have a couple recall items fixed and asked that they try again,
>>>> but they couldn't identify the source of the problem.
>>>
>>> It's probably designed to work that way. The recirculate in most cars
>>> was
>>> meant to actually get the air colder and less humid than you could get
>>> it
>>> if you were sucking in hot air from the outside. I know when I run on
>>> Max/Recirculate, the air is, indeed, colder. So the people who designed
>>> the electronics might have assumed that if you don't actually have the
>>> temperature set to be very cold, then you don't really want or need to
>>> recirculate the air.
>>>
>>> I haven't actually tested this with a timer, but I notice that if I set
>>> my
>>> temperature higher on the thermostat, it takes less time for recirculate
>>> to be deactivated.
>>>
>>> Damaeus
>>> --
>>> "Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."
>>> White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986
>>
>> 08 Avalon--the recirc system has a mind of it's own. It's obviously
>> programmed to be OFF\ON as a function of: Outside air temp, cabin air
>> temp. temp control setting and whatever else it takes into consideration.
>> I think I've figured out some of it's quirks but not all of them.
>> MLD
>
>
> Does the manual as in RTFM have much to say? Or the applicable web site
> for the vehicle?
>
>
Owner's manual says very little--some words about when it will open/close
but not enough to understand how/when it performs it's functions.
MLD

From: Damaeus on 7 Apr 2010 15:49
In news:alt.autos.toyota.camry, "Elmo P. Shagnasty"
<elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> posted on Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:10:26 -0500 the
following:

> does everyone on the net now just quote everything without trimming down
> to the relevant points?

Most people do now, it appears to me. I think so many newsreaders now
have the ability to hide quoted text that people just hit reply and start
typing, then hit send without any consideration at all.

I see people who don't trim their posts much like gorillas who don't
realize they haven't actually cleaned their butts after their last dump,
and even pointing out the lack of trimming to the offending posters
doesn't do any good. They just keep walking around with their
doodie-caked asses.

Occasionally I will run through a message and insert replies with the
inteintion of trimming, but sometimes I forget to go back and trim certain
areas. But generally, in 95% of my posts, I trim.

Damaeus
--
"Marijuana leads to homosexuality ... and therefore to AIDS."
White House Drug Czar Carlton Turner 1986
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