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From: ByTor on 30 Nov 2009 20:59
In article <lE_Qm.81924$Wf2.11492(a)newsfe23.iad>,
newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>
> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
> news:0001603e$0$2201$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
> > In article <no_Qm.81910$Wf2.24244(a)newsfe23.iad>,
> > newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
> >>
> >> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
> >> news:015ceec0$0$3210$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
> >> In article <pan.2009.12.01.01.09.54.308528(a)e86.GTS>, Trueno(a)e86.GTS
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:30:10 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > On Nov 30, 11:19 am, Intrepid <Intrepid...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > >> <
> >> > >> Monday, November 30th, 2009
> >> > >> <
> >> > >> Dear President Obama,
> >> > >> <
> >> > >> Do you really want to be the new "war president"? If you go to West
> >> > >> Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce that you are
> >> > >> increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you
> >> > >> are the new war president. Pure and simple. <
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > > Thanks for this.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > You're happy Obama is going to be the new "war President"?
> >> >
> >> > Glad to see you're finally coming out of The Trance.
> >>
> >> I'm sure the president will be quaking in his shoes after he reads this
> >> letter, if he even reads it.
> >>
> >> I have seen Moore's movies & I do sort of respect him in a certain way
> >> for bringing *out* issues but a side of me views him as yet another
> >> oppurtunist making money.
> >>
> >> ===============
> >>
> >> If he came out & said "My movies are available at no cost from now on.",
> >> would you still think he was an opportunist?
> >
> > The *skeptical* side of me sees him as an oppurtunist Joe whether it's
> > money related or not, maybe I should have left out the money part & just
> > left it generalized. I'm sure he has to make money to pay certain bills
> > that go along with his movies and your question is very unrealistic
> > because it will never happen (no charge for movies). I said I respect
> > him for bringing out issues but he's not as important as he may think he
> > is and I think he knows that as well. I think it's pretty egomaniacal of
> > him to think that his *letter* means anything to the President, Obama
> > has bigger things to worry about than Michael Moore. It's more hits for
> > him on his webpage maybe & a future scenario for yet another movie.....I
> > think he's setting the stage for another movie & using this to promote
> > attention to himself, so NO, even if he didn't charge for his movies I
> > would still be *skeptical* of his motives & consider him an attention
> > getting oppurtunist.
>
>
>
> Well, in a sense, the money issue becomes irrelevant as soon as our public
> libraries purchase new movies & books which we can borrow for free. So, I
> was just curious about the money versus the message. You know I'm a curious
> sort of person who likes to tweeze things apart in ways that make you crazy.

Doesn't make me crazy Joe as long as you don't include me in your 1000 &
1 questions game, but I'm glad it seems I satisfied your question at
least. I try & see the good in what Moore does as far as *issues* it
doesn't mean that I have to like the guy or agree with him *all* the
time.
From: Michael Dobony on 30 Nov 2009 21:25
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:29:47 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote:

> It seems even the lefty kooks are going to be pissed at BO, as are most of
> the normal folks.
>
>
> "Intrepid" <Intrepid517(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:5e99d2d9-aa08-4e57-8186-fa86d15a2c69(a)m11g2000vbo.googlegroups.com...
>> <
>> Monday, November 30th, 2009
>> <
>> Dear President Obama,
>> <
>> Do you really want to be the new "war president"? If you go
>> to West Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce
>> that you are increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops
>> in Afghanistan, you are the new war president. Pure and simple.
>> <
>> And with that you will do the worst possible thing you could do
>> -- destroy the hopes and dreams so many millions have placed
>> in you.

Everybody knows the only purpose for the military is for the poor to get an
education, not fight to protect this nation! That's why so many highly
educated people are joining the military.
From: Mike Hunter on 30 Nov 2009 23:08
You mean like the "issue" in his first movie? That idiot wanted GM to
keep open an assemble plant, that was making thousands more Buicks than they
could sell, because GM "owed it to the Union Workers?

The same fat slob millionaire who complained about the horrors of
capitalism, but made his movies in Canada because he did not want to pay the
wages charged by UNIONS in the US? Get real. LOL



"ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
news:015ceec0$0$3210$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
In article <pan.2009.12.01.01.09.54.308528(a)e86.GTS>, Trueno(a)e86.GTS
says...
>
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:30:10 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote:
>
> > On Nov 30, 11:19 am, Intrepid <Intrepid...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> <
> >> Monday, November 30th, 2009
> >> <
> >> Dear President Obama,
> >> <
> >> Do you really want to be the new "war president"? If you go to West
> >> Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce that you are
> >> increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you
> >> are the new war president. Pure and simple. <
> >>
> >>
> > Thanks for this.
>
>
> You're happy Obama is going to be the new "war President"?
>
> Glad to see you're finally coming out of The Trance.

I'm sure the president will be quaking in his shoes after he reads this
letter, if he even reads it.

I have seen Moore's movies & I do sort of respect him in a certain way
for bringing *out* issues but a side of me views him as yet another
oppurtunist making money. But this letter, reminds me of just another
ranting done in a newsgroup or some blog somewhere. It's the most
unintelligent thing I have ever read considering the issues he's
opposing. I agree that they are *VERY* inportant issues but writing them
in a letter oozing of seemingly immature rantings, I don't buy it.


From: Mike Hunter on 30 Nov 2009 23:11
Apparently our friend Joe$#itForBrains want drive other crazy as well so
they will join him in his institution. LOL

"Joe$#itForBrains" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:lE_Qm.81924$Wf2.11492(a)newsfe23.iad...
> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
> news:0001603e$0$2201$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>> In article <no_Qm.81910$Wf2.24244(a)newsfe23.iad>,
>> newstrash(a)frontiernet.net says...
>>>
>>> "ByTor" <ByTor(a)snowdog.com> wrote in message
>>> news:015ceec0$0$3210$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>> In article <pan.2009.12.01.01.09.54.308528(a)e86.GTS>, Trueno(a)e86.GTS
>>> says...
>>> >
>>> > On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 08:30:10 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On Nov 30, 11:19 am, Intrepid <Intrepid...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> > >> <
>>> > >> Monday, November 30th, 2009
>>> > >> <
>>> > >> Dear President Obama,
>>> > >> <
>>> > >> Do you really want to be the new "war president"? If you go to West
>>> > >> Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce that you are
>>> > >> increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you
>>> > >> are the new war president. Pure and simple. <
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > > Thanks for this.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > You're happy Obama is going to be the new "war President"?
>>> >
>>> > Glad to see you're finally coming out of The Trance.
>>>
>>> I'm sure the president will be quaking in his shoes after he reads this
>>> letter, if he even reads it.
>>>
>>> I have seen Moore's movies & I do sort of respect him in a certain way
>>> for bringing *out* issues but a side of me views him as yet another
>>> oppurtunist making money.
>>>
>>> ===============
>>>
>>> If he came out & said "My movies are available at no cost from now on.",
>>> would you still think he was an opportunist?
>>
>> The *skeptical* side of me sees him as an oppurtunist Joe whether it's
>> money related or not, maybe I should have left out the money part & just
>> left it generalized. I'm sure he has to make money to pay certain bills
>> that go along with his movies and your question is very unrealistic
>> because it will never happen (no charge for movies). I said I respect
>> him for bringing out issues but he's not as important as he may think he
>> is and I think he knows that as well. I think it's pretty egomaniacal of
>> him to think that his *letter* means anything to the President, Obama
>> has bigger things to worry about than Michael Moore. It's more hits for
>> him on his webpage maybe & a future scenario for yet another movie.....I
>> think he's setting the stage for another movie & using this to promote
>> attention to himself, so NO, even if he didn't charge for his movies I
>> would still be *skeptical* of his motives & consider him an attention
>> getting oppurtunist.
>
>
>
> Well, in a sense, the money issue becomes irrelevant as soon as our public
> libraries purchase new movies & books which we can borrow for free. So, I
> was just curious about the money versus the message. You know I'm a
> curious sort of person who likes to tweeze things apart in ways that make
> you crazy.
>


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 30 Nov 2009 23:45
On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:22:37 -0500, ByTor wrote:

>> You're happy Obama is going to be the new "war President"?
>>
>> Glad to see you're finally coming out of The Trance.
>
> I'm sure the president will be quaking in his shoes after he reads this
> letter, if he even reads it.
>
> I have seen Moore's movies & I do sort of respect him in a certain way for
> bringing *out* issues but a side of me views him as yet another
> oppurtunist making money.

Pardon me...<RALLLLLLLLLPH!>

Moore is nothing. He's definitely an opportunist.

If he were anything but, he would show his "Capitalism" movie for free.



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