From: Obveeus on

"FatterDumber& Happier Moe" <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote:
> If you made this kind of money with the present system you wouldn't want
> it changed either, and these numbers are from 2003, add about 20-30% to
> these amounts.

Why would you add 20%-30% over a 7 year period? That kind of increase would
assume that the cost of medical care was going up at the same rate as
general inflation. If medical cost increases were in line with inflation, I
doubt very much that the issue of 'healthcare' would be on the front burner
for the political parties right now. The problem with medical care is that
costs are going up *much* faster than inflation.



From: Bert Hyman on
In news:hnra7c$m67$2(a)news.eternal-september.org "Obveeus"
<Obveeus(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "FatterDumber& Happier Moe" <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote:
>> If you made this kind of money with the present system you wouldn't
>> want it changed either, and these numbers are from 2003, add about
>> 20-30% to these amounts.
>
> Why would you add 20%-30% over a 7 year period? That kind of increase
> would assume that the cost of medical care was going up at the same
> rate as general inflation.

And you're apparently assuming that any increase in the cost of medical
care is due to an increase in doctors' incomes.

--
Bert Hyman St. Paul, MN bert(a)iphouse.com
From: Obveeus on

"Bert Hyman" <bert(a)iphouse.com> wrote in message
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> In news:hnra7c$m67$2(a)news.eternal-september.org "Obveeus"
> <Obveeus(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "FatterDumber& Happier Moe" <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote:
>>> If you made this kind of money with the present system you wouldn't
>>> want it changed either, and these numbers are from 2003, add about
>>> 20-30% to these amounts.
>>
>> Why would you add 20%-30% over a 7 year period? That kind of increase
>> would assume that the cost of medical care was going up at the same
>> rate as general inflation.
>
> And you're apparently assuming that any increase in the cost of medical
> care is due to an increase in doctors' incomes.


No, I'm not, but I'd sure put the odds on doctors' incomes going up faster
than the rate of inflation over the last 7 years.


From: Mike Hunter on
That's for sure, particularly those Doctors that served in the military will
go into teaching, rather than practice under federal government regulations
again.

One of my sons-in-law is a Cardio-Vascular Surgeon, who practiced at St
Luke's Hospital in Milwaukee, he did exactly that a few years ago when his
malpractice insurance premium went up over $165,000 a year!



From: charlesgrozny on

"Devil's_Advocate" <Devils_Advocate(a)devils_.xyx> wrote in message
news:Xns9D3E7FD84660FDevilsAdvocatedevils(a)216.196.97.142...
> FatterDumber& Happier Moe <"WheresMyCheck"@UncleSamLoves.Mee> wrote :
>
>>>
>> If you made this kind of money with the present system you wouldn't
>> want it changed either, and these numbers are from 2003, add about
>> 20-30% to these amounts.
>> * Brain/doctor:$450,00-$650,000
>> * Anesthesiology: $306,964
>> * Surgery, general: $255,438
>> * Obstetrics/gynecology: $233,061
>> * Psychiatry: $163,144
>> * Internal medicine: $155,530
>> * Pediatrics/adolescent medicine: $152,690
>> * Family practice (without obstetrics): $150,267
>> * ER doctors get paid 215,000+ a year (This is from the Medical
>
> Oh NO! The doctors and hospitals MAKE MONEY! Revolt comrades!
>
> Everyone ( even the doctors! ) should be paid $5 an hour for "socialist
> justice"!
>
> We cant have anyone <shudder> MAKING A PROFIT or a GOOD LIVING for the 8
> or
> more years they spent in medical school! Horrors!
>
> Of course if the comrades get there way, who would want to be a doctor?
> ( as evidenced by that survey! )
>
> You should go read a book called "We The Living". It would illustrate what
> happens when all incentives are removed from a society by marxists.
>

Out of that, a lot of doctors have to pay malpractice insurance. Here in
Illinois, thanks to the trial lawyers, it's horrificaly expensive.

We tried Marxism in 1607 in Virginia. Failed miserably.

Tried it again in 1621 in Mass. Failed miserably.

Liberalism is a mental disease. It takes away your memory of the past, so
you aren't smart enough to learn from it. It causes you to base decisions
on feelings, not facts.

Situational ethics sounds like the same junk the hippies were passing around
in the 60's. Like it or not, there are TRUE truths, that is truth that is
true whether the dumb liberals want to believe it or not. If I drop my
laptop right now, it's not going to fall up to the ceiling. Ever. If I
cut myself, I will bleed, for a while, anyway. And my blood is red. If I
accidentally connect myself across a 110 AC house circuit, it's gonna hurt.

And one more thing: Human beings need a reason to do better, some sort of
incentive. That's what killed East Germany in 1989. Even Egon "My,
Grandmother, what big teeth you have." Krenz couldn't save it. But since
Liberals are so mentally sick, they can't remember such things.

Charles Grozny (That's Charles The Terrible for those of you liberals too
stupid to know what it means.)