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From: dr_jeff on 5 Apr 2010 14:05 JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle" > <nolionnoproblem(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:23d0d70a-3465-4a50-ae18-0cd6cee9cdd5(a)x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com... > > >> While we may argue forever whether Climate Change is >> "debatable" (until it's too late), we may still argue the need for >> change based on building a "better world." What's a better world? >> Certainly not one dictated by machines and predatory economies. We >> should be aiming, for example, for more free time to ride bikes and >> walk, not for an artificial, enslaving way of life where you drive a >> "jungle vehicle" (SUV) in the middle of the city. > > > Excellent point(s). > > In the past, I've managed to shut down some fools here by asking the > following question, which NEVER gets a response: > > "Besides global warming, what OTHER reason is there for reducing emissions? > This is a proven reason, and no sane person disagrees with it." > > Now, sit back and watch what happens next. Or what doesn't happen next, if > history is any indication. Are you suggesting that decreased emissions mean decreased imports of oil, which means lowered trade deficit?
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 5 Apr 2010 14:10 "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message news:74ydnQ8YB83huyfWnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle" >> <nolionnoproblem(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:23d0d70a-3465-4a50-ae18-0cd6cee9cdd5(a)x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com... >> >> >>> While we may argue forever whether Climate Change is >>> "debatable" (until it's too late), we may still argue the need for >>> change based on building a "better world." What's a better world? >>> Certainly not one dictated by machines and predatory economies. We >>> should be aiming, for example, for more free time to ride bikes and >>> walk, not for an artificial, enslaving way of life where you drive a >>> "jungle vehicle" (SUV) in the middle of the city. >> >> >> Excellent point(s). >> >> In the past, I've managed to shut down some fools here by asking the >> following question, which NEVER gets a response: >> >> "Besides global warming, what OTHER reason is there for reducing >> emissions? This is a proven reason, and no sane person disagrees with >> it." >> >> Now, sit back and watch what happens next. Or what doesn't happen next, >> if history is any indication. > > Are you suggesting that decreased emissions mean decreased imports of oil, > which means lowered trade deficit? No. And if you can't come up with the other reason, I'll need to ask you for the 100th time why you no longer practice medicine.
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle on 5 Apr 2010 19:09 On Apr 5, 10:33 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote: > "TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle"<nolionnoprob...(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > > news:23d0d70a-3465-4a50-ae18-0cd6cee9cdd5(a)x12g2000yqx.googlegroups.com... > > > While we may argue forever whether Climate Change is > > "debatable" (until it's too late), we may still argue the need for > > change based on building a "better world." What's a better world? > > Certainly not one dictated by machines and predatory economies. We > > should be aiming, for example, for more free time to ride bikes and > > walk, not for an artificial, enslaving way of life where you drive a > > "jungle vehicle" (SUV) in the middle of the city. > > Excellent point(s). > > In the past, I've managed to shut down some fools here by asking the > following question, which NEVER gets a response: > > "Besides global warming, what OTHER reason is there for reducing emissions? > This is a proven reason, and no sane person disagrees with it." > > Now, sit back and watch what happens next. Or what doesn't happen next, if > history is any indication. Thank you! QUALITY OF LIFE is a byproduct of ACCEPTING Climate Change, just like pollution and obesity are byproducts of denial.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 5 Apr 2010 19:51 On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:27:57 -0700, TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote: >> selected because October is a bad month for Antarctic stratospheric >> ozone) >> >> http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/monthly/climatology_10.html >> >> (If one needs a different version of the animation) >> >> - Don Klipstein (d...(a)misty.com) > > While we may argue forever whether Climate Change is "debatable" (until > it's too late), By that time we'll be freezing.
From: TheTibetanMonkey showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle on 5 Apr 2010 20:04
On Apr 5, 4:51 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Mon, 05 Apr 2010 10:27:57 -0700, TheTibetanMonkey > > showing-the-path-of-enlightenment-in-the-jungle wrote: > >> selected because October is a bad month for Antarctic stratospheric > >> ozone) > > >>http://ozonewatch.gsfc.nasa.gov/monthly/climatology_10.html > > >> (If one needs a different version of the animation) > > >> - Don Klipstein (d...(a)misty.com) > > > While we may argue forever whether Climate Change is "debatable" (until > > it's too late), > > By that time we'll be freezing. Are you the only Japanese guy to deny Climate Change and the need for the Kyoto Protocol? C'mon, we need a few bullet trains here rather than Toyotas. Or maybe you are NOT Japanese. |