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From: Wayne on 26 Nov 2009 20:13 "john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:2cdea3ae-02f4-4315-a3f7-64b2a1b254b6(a)15g2000prz.googlegroups.com... >November 26, 2009 >Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now >DANIEL HOWES > >Is the Toyota Motor Corp. juggernaut losing its conqueror-of-the-world >mojo? > >Because if it was a Detroit automaker that was recalling 4.26 million >vehicles to repair accelerator problems, or if it was a Detroit >automaker that had broken its historic no-plant-closings pledge, or if >it was a Detroit automaker that had recalled more vehicles (2.38 >million) in 2005 than it sold in the United States that year (2.26 >million), the answer would be an emphatic yes. - So what do you propose? Buy a GM car instead of a Toyota? <snort>
From: someone on 26 Nov 2009 20:26 In article <elmop-3BCE6A.19333226112009(a)nothing.attdns.com>, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote: >In article <osEPm.272817$Jp1.81678(a)en-nntp-06.dc1.easynews.com>, > someone(a)some.domain (someone(a)some.domain) wrote: > >> >Maybe you mean harakiri? >> seppeku is the correct name. >> the other is stupid slang. > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harakiri > >The most famous form of seppuku is also known as harakiri (y�R�0, >"cutting the belly") and is written with the same kanji as seppuku but >in reverse order with an okurigana. In Japanese, the more formal >seppuku, a Chinese on'yomi reading, is typically used in writing, while >harakiri, a native kun'yomi reading, is used in speech. exactly, "common useage" for the peasants.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 26 Nov 2009 21:10 On Thu, 26 Nov 2009 17:13:00 -0800, Wayne wrote: > > "john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:2cdea3ae-02f4-4315-a3f7-64b2a1b254b6(a)15g2000prz.googlegroups.com... >>November 26, 2009 >>Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now DANIEL HOWES >> >>Is the Toyota Motor Corp. juggernaut losing its conqueror-of-the-world >>mojo? >> >>Because if it was a Detroit automaker that was recalling 4.26 million >>vehicles to repair accelerator problems, or if it was a Detroit automaker >>that had broken its historic no-plant-closings pledge, or if it was a >>Detroit automaker that had recalled more vehicles (2.38 million) in 2005 >>than it sold in the United States that year (2.26 million), the answer >>would be an emphatic yes. > - > So what do you propose? Buy a GM car instead of a Toyota? <snort> Regardless of problems, I think Toyota will be around for a LONG time to make good on their cars. I'm giving GM to the end of the year. THIS year...
From: Steve Austin on 27 Nov 2009 08:40 Wayne wrote: > "john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:2cdea3ae-02f4-4315-a3f7-64b2a1b254b6(a)15g2000prz.googlegroups.com... >> November 26, 2009 >> Howes: Toyota not looking so shiny now >> DANIEL HOWES >> >> Is the Toyota Motor Corp. juggernaut losing its conqueror-of-the-world >> mojo? >> >> Because if it was a Detroit automaker that was recalling 4.26 million >> vehicles to repair accelerator problems, or if it was a Detroit >> automaker that had broken its historic no-plant-closings pledge, or if >> it was a Detroit automaker that had recalled more vehicles (2.38 >> million) in 2005 than it sold in the United States that year (2.26 >> million), the answer would be an emphatic yes. > - > So what do you propose? Buy a GM car instead of a Toyota? > <snort> > > Now that Toyota is giving away the dealer scan tool, I would get a GM instead? Ha!
From: z on 27 Nov 2009 09:38
<someone(a)some.domain> wrote in message news:%8CPm.279529$Jp1.66565(a)en-nntp-02.dc1.easynews.com... > In article > <d9b14ab6-de86-4e4b-9b0f-b323f98f7409(a)r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com>, > phaeton <blahbleh666(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> This isn't new, either, suggesting that Toyota's troubles may be more >>> of a developing pattern than a one-time aberration. Two years ago, >>> before two-thirds of Detroit's automakers were tempered by the fires >>> of bankruptcy, the editor of the ostensibly "Japanese-loving" Consumer >>> Reports apologized to readers for recommending the problem-plagued >>> Camry V-6. >>> >>> He also said the magazine had decided new Toyota models could no >>> longer be given the benefit of the doubt -- or its prized >>> "recommended" label. And Toyota's V-8 powered Tundra four-wheel drive >>> pickup was labeled "unreliable" by the magazine, the unofficial Bible >>> to discerning car and truck buyers. >>> >>> >> >>I always take everything Consumer Reports says with a grain of salt. > > yeah, a 50 mile square grain. I have my own theory about Consumer Reports Ratings, when the ratings are a reflection of public response - who responds to the typical survey? Who writes letter to the editor? Who calls a corporate complaint/compliment line? Those who are not happy. So, in my own little not so humble opinion, CR public response ratings are skewed to the negative. |