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From: Matthew Russotto on 9 Aug 2010 21:42 In article <C5M7o.10897$Z6.8040(a)edtnps82>, Sharx35 <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > >So, HOW many cyclists fork out for insurance in case they damage someone's >sheet metal? I believe that would be covered under the general liability clause in my homeowner's insurance. However, it's rather unlikely. However, if you wish to see drivers treated equally and not required to carry insurance, I'm all for that. >How much do cyclists pay for registration? Nothing. Once again, if you'd like to see drivers treated equally and not required to register, I'm all for that. >How many cyclists pay even a fraction of the cost of the average new >car for their flimsy bike? Far too many. It's easy enough to pay $8,000 for an off the shelf road bike, which is a significant fraction of new car prices. As for flimsy...the more you pay, the flimsier they get. -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need.
From: Matthew Russotto on 9 Aug 2010 21:44 In article <0661db98-5c62-4012-af90-0c4f169241a0(a)a4g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, Harry K <turnkey4099(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >Could you clarify that? In mosst states they have the KRETP or STKR >laws which means the vehicles must keep in the right most lanes unless >passing or if they are slower than the flow. In the law you cite is >it the bicycle must be in the right _lane_ (I bet it is), or as far to >the right _in the lane_ as possible (I bet it isn't). In most states the bicycle must be as far to the right _in the lane_ as practicable. Bicyclist logic tends to twist the hell out of that word "practicable", though. -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need.
From: Matthew Russotto on 9 Aug 2010 21:46 In article <1f69084f-6233-4ac5-8bf7-3028196cc9a7(a)y32g2000prc.googlegroups.com>, Spartakus <spartakus(a)my-deja.com> wrote: > > >Does anyone like mimes? People aren't signing up for mime school, but >they are going for bikes in a big way. You may as well resign >yourself to having to share the road with ever-increasing numbers of >cyclists. Nope. Most people will buy them, ride them for a little bit, then let them rot in the garage. -- The problem with socialism is there's always someone with less ability and more need.
From: His Highness the TibetanMonkey, Creator of the Movement of Tantra-Hammock & the Stationary Bicycle t on 9 Aug 2010 22:53 On Aug 9, 6:44 pm, russo...(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew Russotto) wrote: > In article <0661db98-5c62-4012-af90-0c4f16924...(a)a4g2000prm.googlegroups.com>, > Harry K <turnkey4...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >Could you clarify that? In mosst states they have the KRETP or STKR > >laws which means the vehicles must keep in the right most lanes unless > >passing or if they are slower than the flow. In the law you cite is > >it the bicycle must be in the right _lane_ (I bet it is), or as far to > >the right _in the lane_ as possible (I bet it isn't). > > In most states the bicycle must be as far to the right _in the lane_ > as practicable. Bicyclist logic tends to twist the hell out of that > word "practicable", though. That's open to interpretation and conflict is sure to erupt b/ driver and cyclist, where the cyclist has the more to lose. How many feet would you want b/ a car and you if you were riding a bike?
From: Nate Nagel on 10 Aug 2010 19:01
On 08/09/2010 07:30 PM, Tom wrote: > > > > > "Spartakus" <spartakus(a)my-deja.com> wrote in message > news:1f69084f-6233-4ac5-8bf7-3028196cc9a7(a)y32g2000prc.googlegroups.com... >> edspyhill01 <edspyhil...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I'm a bit too left wing and an agnostic so I can't be an American >>> Taliban. Bicylists are like mimes - nobody likes them. >> >> Does anyone like mimes? People aren't signing up for mime school, but >> they are going for bikes in a big way. You may as well resign >> yourself to having to share the road with ever-increasing numbers of >> cyclists. > > Bicycles are road hazards. to be paved over and eliminated, you cant > hear them see them and they are always in the road. 2 lane roads and > bicycles are a accident waiting to happen > black bikes black clothing and dim or no lights (squish) Good lights are required if riding at night, unfortunately they are not *legally* required... my bike has a BuMM IQ Cyo headlight and a Shimano hub dynamo (obviously not a racy type bike) and if you can't see that coming, you shouldn't be on the road. I put little bits of reflective tape all over the frame too. Unfortunately it seems that most people who ride at night think that it makes them look too fredly to be conspicuous, but I kinda like not being metabolically challenged, and I never have been mistaken for cool anyway. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |