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From: AZ Nomad on 18 Nov 2009 21:25 On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:17:24 -0600, hls <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: >"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >> Don't know what doing a clutch on a FWD entails, but I'm pretty sure >> it's more labor than a RWD. >> Have to ask my kid. He converted his '93 Corsica from auto to stick >> and knows way too much about it. >> >> --Vic >Depends.. Some are a piece of cake.. Others are not In any case, it'll cost at least ten times than trading to a MT car. Unless, of course, your time is worth nothing and want to engage in an expensive pointless project.
From: hls on 19 Nov 2009 09:00 "AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message news:slrnhg9b4s.s30.aznomad.3(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net... > On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:17:24 -0600, hls <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > >>"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>> Don't know what doing a clutch on a FWD entails, but I'm pretty sure >>> it's more labor than a RWD. >>> Have to ask my kid. He converted his '93 Corsica from auto to stick >>> and knows way too much about it. >>> >>> --Vic >>Depends.. Some are a piece of cake.. Others are not > > In any case, it'll cost at least ten times than trading to a MT car. > Unless, of course, your time is worth nothing and want to engage > in an expensive pointless project. Ive seen a number of conversions to MT, and your observations are right on.
From: Vic Smith on 19 Nov 2009 09:44 On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:00:40 -0600, "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > >"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message >news:slrnhg9b4s.s30.aznomad.3(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net... >> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:17:24 -0600, hls <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: >> >>>"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>> Don't know what doing a clutch on a FWD entails, but I'm pretty sure >>>> it's more labor than a RWD. >>>> Have to ask my kid. He converted his '93 Corsica from auto to stick >>>> and knows way too much about it. >>>> >>>> --Vic >>>Depends.. Some are a piece of cake.. Others are not >> >> In any case, it'll cost at least ten times than trading to a MT car. >> Unless, of course, your time is worth nothing and want to engage >> in an expensive pointless project. > >Ive seen a number of conversions to MT, and your observations are right on. I'll add it wasn't expensive at all. But he's pretty special as a mech, and knows how to haunt boneyards. The most expensive thing was getting the sized halfshafts, and those were less than $200. Think the Getrag cost him 50 bucks. I thought it was silly when I heard what he had done. That was when he called from down the street with the dropped halfshaft. He had miscalculated the lengths of what he needed and had bought for a few bucks at the boneyard. I gave him a dressing down about doing it - he did it over one weekend 100 feet away from me in the garage, but hadn't told me what he was doing. Probably knew what I would say. Then seeing his depression I supported him and put him onto a halfshaft shop that set him right up with proper length halfshafts. Next day he was all set, and drove the car another 4 years before rust got it. It was his first car, and he didn't have the money to replace it. Didn't even look like a Corsica. Think rice. Not my style, any of it, but nobody says your kids have to be like you. I'm proud of him. He did a nice job taking of taking care of those 3800 LIM and UIM problems on his Bonneville too. Before they became a problem. So he doesn't waste money on cars. Wastes it on computers. --Vic
From: hls on 19 Nov 2009 10:29 "Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:olkag51nkqj3k00q6d4s12b9mcjkh8cf5g(a)4ax.com... > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:00:40 -0600, "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: > >> >>"AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message >>news:slrnhg9b4s.s30.aznomad.3(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net... >>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:17:24 -0600, hls <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: >>> >>>>"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>> Don't know what doing a clutch on a FWD entails, but I'm pretty sure >>>>> it's more labor than a RWD. >>>>> Have to ask my kid. He converted his '93 Corsica from auto to stick >>>>> and knows way too much about it. >>>>> >>>>> --Vic >>>>Depends.. Some are a piece of cake.. Others are not >>> >>> In any case, it'll cost at least ten times than trading to a MT car. >>> Unless, of course, your time is worth nothing and want to engage >>> in an expensive pointless project. >> >>Ive seen a number of conversions to MT, and your observations are right >>on. > > I'll add it wasn't expensive at all. But he's pretty special as a > mech, and knows how to haunt boneyards. > The most expensive thing was getting the sized halfshafts, and those > were less than $200. Think the Getrag cost him 50 bucks. > I thought it was silly when I heard what he had done. That was when > he called from down the street with the dropped halfshaft. > He had miscalculated the lengths of what he needed and had bought for > a few bucks at the boneyard. I gave him a dressing down about doing > it - he did it over one weekend 100 feet away from me in the garage, > but hadn't told me what he was doing. Probably knew what I would say. > Then seeing his depression I supported him and put him onto a > halfshaft shop that set him right up with proper length halfshafts. > Next day he was all set, and drove the car another 4 years before rust > got it. > It was his first car, and he didn't have the money to replace it. > Didn't even look like a Corsica. Think rice. > Not my style, any of it, but nobody says your kids have to be like > you. I'm proud of him. > He did a nice job taking of taking care of those 3800 LIM and UIM > problems on his Bonneville too. Before they became a problem. > So he doesn't waste money on cars. > Wastes it on computers. > > --Vic Better than wasting it on dope and red headed women, IMO. If you have a good source of parts, many of these jobs are simple changeouts. If you have to hang pedals, custom fabricate a lot of things, then it can be a bummer. For my part, the only thing I like less than trying to work under a dash (pedals, etc) is working on exhaust systems.
From: Nate Nagel on 19 Nov 2009 20:42
hls wrote: > > "Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:olkag51nkqj3k00q6d4s12b9mcjkh8cf5g(a)4ax.com... >> On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 08:00:40 -0600, "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: >> >>> >>> "AZ Nomad" <aznomad.3(a)PremoveOBthisOX.COM> wrote in message >>> news:slrnhg9b4s.s30.aznomad.3(a)ip70-176-155-130.ph.ph.cox.net... >>>> On Wed, 18 Nov 2009 19:17:24 -0600, hls <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote: >>>> >>>>> "Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted(a)comcast.net> wrote in message >>>>>> Don't know what doing a clutch on a FWD entails, but I'm pretty sure >>>>>> it's more labor than a RWD. >>>>>> Have to ask my kid. He converted his '93 Corsica from auto to stick >>>>>> and knows way too much about it. >>>>>> >>>>>> --Vic >>>>> Depends.. Some are a piece of cake.. Others are not >>>> >>>> In any case, it'll cost at least ten times than trading to a MT car. >>>> Unless, of course, your time is worth nothing and want to engage >>>> in an expensive pointless project. >>> >>> Ive seen a number of conversions to MT, and your observations are >>> right on. >> >> I'll add it wasn't expensive at all. But he's pretty special as a >> mech, and knows how to haunt boneyards. >> The most expensive thing was getting the sized halfshafts, and those >> were less than $200. Think the Getrag cost him 50 bucks. >> I thought it was silly when I heard what he had done. That was when >> he called from down the street with the dropped halfshaft. >> He had miscalculated the lengths of what he needed and had bought for >> a few bucks at the boneyard. I gave him a dressing down about doing >> it - he did it over one weekend 100 feet away from me in the garage, >> but hadn't told me what he was doing. Probably knew what I would say. >> Then seeing his depression I supported him and put him onto a >> halfshaft shop that set him right up with proper length halfshafts. >> Next day he was all set, and drove the car another 4 years before rust >> got it. >> It was his first car, and he didn't have the money to replace it. >> Didn't even look like a Corsica. Think rice. >> Not my style, any of it, but nobody says your kids have to be like >> you. I'm proud of him. >> He did a nice job taking of taking care of those 3800 LIM and UIM >> problems on his Bonneville too. Before they became a problem. >> So he doesn't waste money on cars. >> Wastes it on computers. >> >> --Vic > > Better than wasting it on dope and red headed women, IMO. > If you have a good source of parts, many of these jobs are simple > changeouts. > If you have to hang pedals, custom fabricate a lot of things, then it > can be a > bummer. > For my part, the only thing I like less than trying to work under a dash > (pedals, etc) > is working on exhaust systems. I converted my '55 Stude from an automatic to a 4-speed, I probably wouldn't do it again, but I really had to have a stickshift to be happy with the car. I'm thinking about converting it to a column-shift 3-speed with overdrive for vintage coolness and more gear spread (or maybe a modern 5-speed, but most aren't rated for the torque of a Stude V-8.) BUT I can't honestly say that I'd recommend anyone to do it, there's no logical reason to other than "I want to." Unless you have to have a certain exact hard to find car you're probably better off just buying a car with a stick in the first place. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |