From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Sat, 22 May 2010 19:47:45 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:

> This from shrimp fishermen in the LA Bayou country. Seems Obama did such a
> great job in response to the oil spill these people had to get NBC news to
> take up their plight.


The ACOE has gotten back to the people in LA.

It seems the people in LA wanted to set up sand berms to keep the oil from
infiltratiing the estuaries around the Gulf.

The ACOE has finally gotten back to them, basically saying not to do
anything until an Environmental Impact study of the berms is completed...

!?


From: Jeff Strickland on

"JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
news:PVPKn.38806$_84.37326(a)newsfe18.iad...
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:htf1s8$hd0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>> news:dtDKn.17627$h57.8220(a)newsfe22.iad...
>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:3sDKn.30583$wV2.28249(a)newsfe23.iad...
>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2010 17:44:31 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>> news:ToCKn.18749$Gx2.11572(a)newsfe20.iad...
>>>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2010 16:05:22 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, 23 May 2010 23:05:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:c_lKn.36950$304.26745(a)newsfe12.iad...
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:14:13 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>> news:B2_Jn.21047$mi.1914(a)newsfe01.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>> This from shrimp fishermen in the LA Bayou country. Seems Obama
>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>> such a great job in response to the oil spill these people had
>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>> get NBC news to take up their plight.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, you probably think we should expand drilling, because
>>>>>>>>>> it's "safe".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So, the possible destruction of a coastal economy is of no
>>>>>>>> consequence, since you don't live there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apparently. I'll have to remember that when the next hurricane
>>>>>>> creeps
>>>>>>> up the Atlantic coastline and hits Massachusetts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He puts words in my mouth and you "Mee Too" with him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The *real* topic here is the Obama administration's lack of response
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> the area. Meanwhile, you're apparently steamed at me for "not
>>>>>> caring".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny, you haven't said a word about the administration's mishandling
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> the situation, of the fishermen who have asked the administration to
>>>>>> let
>>>>>> them help, the fact the ACOE has been requested and there has been no
>>>>>> action, but the real problem is that I don't appear to care.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's because you DO NOT care. You think we should keep drilling,
>>>>> even
>>>>> though all suggestions of safety are pure lies.
>>>>
>>>> Yup. Drill baby drill!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Weren't you one of the mooks who said "Obama gave away oil drilling
>>> rights to China"? I think that was you.
>>>
>>
>> Yes, Obama did. And the Chinese are drilling along side the Deepwater
>> Horizon in the same 5,000 feet of water. Hugo Chavez and the Castro
>> Brothers are also drilling there.
>
>
> That's simply not true. But you're not interested in facts. You only want
> to hear or read what you already "know". Have you always been a mook?
>


But it is true. Maybe it's a bit of an exaggeration that the Chicoms are
drilling along side the Deepwater Horizon because they are really drilling a
few miles away, but they are drilling in the Gulf, they are drilling in
5,000 ft of water.

DISCUSSION
Have you stopped beating your wife?

JOE
She's not my wife.



Completely missing the point that the beating is the part of the discussion,
you disect the relationship and point out the inaccuracy. The point is that
the Chinese and the Venezuelians, and others, are all drilling in the Gulf
of Mexico, not just us. It doesn't matter that the rigs are within eyesight
of one another or over the horizon.






From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
> news:PVPKn.38806$_84.37326(a)newsfe18.iad...
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:htf1s8$hd0$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
>>> news:dtDKn.17627$h57.8220(a)newsfe22.iad...
>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:3sDKn.30583$wV2.28249(a)newsfe23.iad...
>>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2010 17:44:31 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:ToCKn.18749$Gx2.11572(a)newsfe20.iad...
>>>>>>> On Mon, 24 May 2010 16:05:22 -0500, pandora wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, 23 May 2010 23:05:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:c_lKn.36950$304.26745(a)newsfe12.iad...
>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 23 May 2010 22:14:13 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>> news:B2_Jn.21047$mi.1914(a)newsfe01.iad...
>>>>>>>>>>>> This from shrimp fishermen in the LA Bayou country. Seems Obama
>>>>>>>>>>>> did
>>>>>>>>>>>> such a great job in response to the oil spill these people had
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> get NBC news to take up their plight.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Meanwhile, you probably think we should expand drilling, because
>>>>>>>>>>> it's "safe".
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, the possible destruction of a coastal economy is of no
>>>>>>>>> consequence, since you don't live there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apparently. I'll have to remember that when the next hurricane
>>>>>>>> creeps
>>>>>>>> up the Atlantic coastline and hits Massachusetts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He puts words in my mouth and you "Mee Too" with him.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The *real* topic here is the Obama administration's lack of response
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> the area. Meanwhile, you're apparently steamed at me for "not
>>>>>>> caring".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Funny, you haven't said a word about the administration's
>>>>>>> mishandling of
>>>>>>> the situation, of the fishermen who have asked the administration to
>>>>>>> let
>>>>>>> them help, the fact the ACOE has been requested and there has been
>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>> action, but the real problem is that I don't appear to care.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's because you DO NOT care. You think we should keep drilling,
>>>>>> even
>>>>>> though all suggestions of safety are pure lies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yup. Drill baby drill!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Weren't you one of the mooks who said "Obama gave away oil drilling
>>>> rights to China"? I think that was you.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, Obama did. And the Chinese are drilling along side the Deepwater
>>> Horizon in the same 5,000 feet of water. Hugo Chavez and the Castro
>>> Brothers are also drilling there.
>>
>>
>> That's simply not true. But you're not interested in facts. You only want
>> to hear or read what you already "know". Have you always been a mook?
>>
>
>
> But it is true. Maybe it's a bit of an exaggeration that the Chicoms are
> drilling along side the Deepwater Horizon because they are really drilling
> a few miles away, but they are drilling in the Gulf, they are drilling in
> 5,000 ft of water.
>
> DISCUSSION
> Have you stopped beating your wife?
>
> JOE
> She's not my wife.
>
>
>
> Completely missing the point that the beating is the part of the
> discussion, you disect the relationship and point out the inaccuracy. The
> point is that the Chinese and the Venezuelians, and others, are all
> drilling in the Gulf of Mexico, not just us. It doesn't matter that the
> rigs are within eyesight of one another or over the horizon.


I'm missing the point? You said Obama gave away drilling rights. In fact,
the "rights" for that area were in place long before Obama, per an agreement
WE made with Cuba. Obama had absolutely NOTHING to do with the situation.

The issue is NOT that any particular country is drilling in that region. The
issue is why they're legally able to do so. If you disagree, bring facts to
the discussion.


From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-05-26 09:27:00 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com>
> said:
>
>> It's not an issue of thinking parallel thoughts. It's an issue of
>> addressing
>> the point you make and then watching as you ignore what has been said and
>> go
>> off in an entirely different direction with a completely unrelated topic.
>
> Correct. Mr. Rochester P. Milquetoast equates his being scatterbrained
> with the ability to think in more than a linear fashion.
>
> A sure proof of his mental illness.
>


Maybe you can help Jeff determine why the Chinese are permitted to drill in
areas where Jeff thinks they shouldn't. Jeff is having delusions, probably
based on one of his "news sources". His basic philosophy of life is part of
the problem:

"I listen to those that say the things I already know."
Jeff Strickland



From: Jeff Strickland on

"Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
news:8652c8Fv3nU1(a)mid.individual.net...
> On 2010-05-26 09:27:00 -0700, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com>
> said:
>
>> It's not an issue of thinking parallel thoughts. It's an issue of
>> addressing
>> the point you make and then watching as you ignore what has been said and
>> go
>> off in an entirely different direction with a completely unrelated topic.
>
> Correct. Mr. Rochester P. Milquetoast equates his being scatterbrained
> with the ability to think in more than a linear fashion.
>
> A sure proof of his mental illness.
>

Or, his consumption of massive amounts of street drugs.







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