From: JoeSpareBedroom on 25 Jun 2010 00:57 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:i018kl$he1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > I've not read the article, but if the scant information I have is > accurate, then Obama dumped the wrong guy if he was trying to stop the > divisiveness in his Administration. Translation: You're basing your opinions on sources which are at least once removed the article which resulted in the general being fired. Therefore, your opinions are of questionable value. Read the article. http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236
From: Jeff Strickland on 25 Jun 2010 12:52 "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:yGWUn.287$4B7.163(a)newsfe16.iad... > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:i018kl$he1$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > >> I've not read the article, but if the scant information I have is >> accurate, then Obama dumped the wrong guy if he was trying to stop the >> divisiveness in his Administration. > > > Translation: You're basing your opinions on sources which are at least > once removed the article which resulted in the general being fired. > Therefore, your opinions are of questionable value. > > Read the article. > > http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236 > > This is gonna come as a surprise to you, but I really don't care what the Rolling Stone reports on any subject. Period. I accept the fact that any General serves at the pleasure of the President, and if hte President is displeased, the General jumps on the nearest Humvee and heads for the sunset. I have no problem with that, so I don't care that the Prez is displeased because of a Rolling Stone article, or a pea under his matress. The general is history. Big deal. It's telling though that when the general was put in charge, his first supply requisition was for 40,000 more troops to win the war, and the Prez balked at filling it. Then the general's hands were tied by Rules of Engagement that the next general is going to unwind so the troops can engage the enemy. I'm certain the Prez will balk. The general is blamed for not winning a war that is unwinnable because the Prez and his merry men don't want it to be won. The general points out to Rolling Stone that he can't win because his boss doesn't want him to win, and the general is looking for a new job. And the general AND the Prez make remarks that they are both on the same page as a matter of war policy, so if there is divisiveness that the Prez wants to remove, why does he remove the guy that is on the same page? Why not remove the guy(s) that openly challenge the general as he's doing the job that the Prez wants to have done? Doesn't that seem a bit logical, even to you?
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 25 Jun 2010 13:03 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:i02mtk$4vq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > This is gonna come as a surprise to you, but I really don't care what the > Rolling Stone reports on any subject. Period. Uh oh. You just said it again: "I listen to those that say the things I already know." Jeff Strickland > The general points out to Rolling Stone that he can't win because his boss > doesn't want him to win I didn't see that in the article, which I read twice. So, you heard that second hand from someone else. Who did you hear it from? "I listen to those that say the things I already know." Jeff Strickland
From: Jeff Strickland on 25 Jun 2010 15:46 "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message news:Aj5Vn.237$Hw.81(a)newsfe10.iad... > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:i02mtk$4vq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > >> This is gonna come as a surprise to you, but I really don't care what the >> Rolling Stone reports on any subject. Period. > > Uh oh. You just said it again: > > "I listen to those that say the things I already know." > Jeff Strickland > > It's not that at all. I do not read Rolling Stone. Period. You don't read The Weekly Standard. Life goes on ... It's completely unimportant why McChrystal is out of a job. He serves at the pleasure of the President, and the President is displeased. The general is out, another general is in. What is important is the press conference where Obama stated that he and McChrystal share the same policy position on the conduct of the war, but that McChrystal is a devisive force. My contention is that if they share the same policy position, then the divisive force must lie elsewhere, and the President will have the same problems tomorrrow as he had yesterday because the devisive force remains. That's the issue. Not the Rolling Stone article.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 25 Jun 2010 15:49
"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:i03145$tho$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message > news:Aj5Vn.237$Hw.81(a)newsfe10.iad... >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:i02mtk$4vq$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >>> This is gonna come as a surprise to you, but I really don't care what >>> the Rolling Stone reports on any subject. Period. >> >> Uh oh. You just said it again: >> >> "I listen to those that say the things I already know." >> Jeff Strickland >> >> > > It's not that at all. I do not read Rolling Stone. Period. You don't read > The Weekly Standard. Life goes on ... > > It's completely unimportant why McChrystal is out of a job. He serves at > the pleasure of the President, and the President is displeased. The > general is out, another general is in. > > What is important is the press conference where Obama stated that he and > McChrystal share the same policy position on the conduct of the war, but > that McChrystal is a devisive force. My contention is that if they share > the same policy position, then the divisive force must lie elsewhere, and > the President will have the same problems tomorrrow as he had yesterday > because the devisive force remains. > > That's the issue. Not the Rolling Stone article. You are lying. "I listen to those that say the things I already know." Jeff Strickland |