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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 13 Mar 2010 10:42 On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:43:34 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > On Mar 12, 11:25 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:57:42 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >> > On Mar 12, 4:33 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:54:58 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >> >> >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the >> >> >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, >> >> >> > and prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating >> >> >> > prescription drug prices? All of which were not paid for?- Hide >> >> >> > quoted text - >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> >> > Repugnican reconciliations during the Cheney presidency. >> >> >> > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax >> >> > Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation >> >> > Act of 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06] >> >> > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] >> >> >> > GOP Senators Who Used Budget Reconciliation >> >> >> We are NOT Talking Reconcilition here! THis is a new "rule" thought >> >> up by the Congresswoman with the constituent who wears her dead >> >> sister's teeth. Slaughter. >> >> >> THis would BYPASS ANY kind of a vote or Reconciliation! >> >> >> Congress should NOT have the power to pass a bill because the Speaker >> >> says so! >> >> >> If the Republican tried this kind of bullshit you'd be howling at the >> >> m00n!- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > It's Reconciliation. The repugnicans and Boy George used it for: >> >> > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts >> > [HR 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of >> > 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06] >> > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] >> >> In case you're unfamiliar, the Slaughter Rule is named after Louise "she >> wore her dead sister's dentures" Slaughter and it works like this: The >> speaker brings a bill containing a list of changes that the House wants >> to make to the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. When the House >> members vote for and pass this list of changes to the Senate bill, the >> House will deem the Senate bill as passed as well, even though the >> Senate bill itself was never voted on to begin with.- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > And how is this different from what the repugnicans did to pass Boy > George's legislation? > > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR > 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR > 4297, 5/11/06] > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] The difference is, it's being used to levy yet another TAX on the people of the US. Look at the bills you just mentioned, and tell me what's wrong with tax cuts and Deficit Reduction. Wow. You're in over your head almost as much as Obama. I suppose we should pass it, just so we can find out what's in it. Ooops...Nancy Pelosi said that.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 13 Mar 2010 10:45 On Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:44:19 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > On Mar 12, 11:26 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:56:15 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >> > On Mar 12, 4:36 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:45:44 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >> >> > On Mar 12, 9:13 am, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >> >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:10:41 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >> >> >> > On Mar 11, 10:53 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> >> >> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Just "deem" it passed, of course! >> >> >> >> >> The Democrats in 'power' now are just too unbelievable! >> >> >> >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the >> >> >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, >> >> >> > and prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating >> >> >> > prescription drug prices? All of which were not paid for? >> >> >> >> You need to keep up. Google "Slaughter rule" >> >> >> >> Nothing at all like reconciliation. Your rights and your voice are >> >> >> being yanked out from under you and you still cheer. >> >> >> >> This is REALLY sad. >> >> >> > So did the same thing happen when the repugnicans did the same >> >> > thing 3 times? >> >> >> Goddammit! this is NOT RECONCILIATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> >> This is a total subversion of the system! The Speaker of the House >> >> would have the power to call a bill passed merely because She Says >> >> So! >> >> >> It is WRONG and is NOT what the Constitution called for! >> >> >> This is the same as the President saying, "I want *this* and I said >> >> so, so it is law." >> >> >> This is NOT what we have Representative government for.- Hide quoted >> >> text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> In case you're unfamiliar, the Slaughter Rule is named after Louise "she >> wore her dead sister's dentures" Slaughter and it works like this: The >> speaker brings a bill containing a list of changes that the House wants >> to make to the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. When the House >> members vote for and pass this list of changes to the Senate bill, the >> House will deem the Senate bill as passed as well, even though the >> Senate bill itself was never voted on to begin with. > >> >> >> > And how is this different from what the repugnicans did to pass Boy > George's legislation? > > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR > 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR > 4297, 5/11/06] > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] Because they're using it to do an end run around what the PEOPLE have voiced they DON'T want in overwhelming numbers. In Bush's case, it was used to pass bills that were unpopular with Democrat Congresspeople. Difference it the citzens and lawmakers. Tell me you didn't want tax cuts and deficit reduction.
From: in2dadark on 13 Mar 2010 18:28 On Mar 13, 5:44 am, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 12, 11:26 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:56:15 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > > > On Mar 12, 4:36 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > > >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:45:44 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > > >> > On Mar 12, 9:13 am, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > > >> >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:10:41 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > > >> >> > On Mar 11, 10:53 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > > >> >> >> Just "deem" it passed, of course! > > > >> >> >> The Democrats in 'power' now are just too unbelievable! > > > >> >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the > > >> >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, and > > >> >> > prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating prescription drug > > >> >> > prices? All of which were not paid for? > > > >> >> You need to keep up. Google "Slaughter rule" > > > >> >> Nothing at all like reconciliation. Your rights and your voice are > > >> >> being yanked out from under you and you still cheer. > > > >> >> This is REALLY sad. > > > >> > So did the same thing happen when the repugnicans did the same thing 3 > > >> > times? > > > >> Goddammit! this is NOT RECONCILIATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > >> This is a total subversion of the system! The Speaker of the House would > > >> have the power to call a bill passed merely because She Says So! > > > >> It is WRONG and is NOT what the Constitution called for! > > > >> This is the same as the President saying, "I want *this* and I said so, > > >> so it is law." > > > >> This is NOT what we have Representative government for.- Hide quoted > > >> text - > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > In case you're unfamiliar, the Slaughter Rule is named after Louise "she > > wore her dead sister's dentures" Slaughter and it works like this: The > > speaker brings a bill containing a list of changes that the House wants to > > make to the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. When the House members > > vote for and pass this list of changes to the Senate bill, the House will > > deem the Senate bill as passed as well, even though the Senate bill itself > > was never voted on to begin with. > > > And how is this different from what the repugnicans did to pass Boy > George's legislation? > > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] > - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03] > - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, > 5/11/06] > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05]- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Geez tax cuts and deficit reduction. Those evil republicans.
From: charlesgrozny on 13 Mar 2010 20:08 "Scott in Florida" <MoveOn(a)Outa.here> wrote in message news:lp2op5ta19uoevjsh5v3aeg47ojvrq2mmo(a)4ax.com... > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:57:42 -0800 (PST), edspyhill01 > <edspyhill09(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >>On Mar 12, 4:33 pm, Hachiroku ???? <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >>> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:54:58 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >>> >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the >>> >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, and >>> >> > prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating prescription drug >>> >> > prices? All of which were not paid for?- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> >> - Show quoted text - >>> >>> > Repugnican reconciliations during the Cheney presidency. >>> >>> > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts >>> > [HR >>> > 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 >>> > [HR >>> > 4297, 5/11/06] >>> > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] >>> >>> > GOP Senators Who Used Budget Reconciliation >>> >>> We are NOT Talking Reconcilition here! THis is a new "rule" thought up >>> by >>> the Congresswoman with the constituent who wears her dead sister's >>> teeth. >>> Slaughter. >>> >>> THis would BYPASS ANY kind of a vote or Reconciliation! >>> >>> Congress should NOT have the power to pass a bill because the Speaker >>> says >>> so! >>> >>> If the Republican tried this kind of bullshit you'd be howling at the >>> m00n!- Hide quoted text - >>> >>> - Show quoted text - >> >>It's Reconciliation. The repugnicans and Boy George used it for: >> >>- The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] >>- The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03] >>- Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, >>5/11/06] >>- The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] > > all good bills and NONE of them were to RUIN the United States of > America.... > > Are you really that stupid?????? > > > -- > > Scott in Florida > > > > Why do you think I call him Ed Syphillis? Ever seen the pictures of Al Capone in his later years fishing in his swimming pool in Florida after syphillis had ate out his mind? Charles Grozny
From: edspyhill01 on 13 Mar 2010 20:08
On Mar 13, 6:28 pm, in2dadark <in2dad...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Mar 13, 5:44 am, edspyhill01 <edspyhil...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 12, 11:26 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > > > > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:56:15 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > > > > On Mar 12, 4:36 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:45:44 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > > > >> > On Mar 12, 9:13 am, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > > > >> >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:10:41 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > > > >> >> > On Mar 11, 10:53 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > > > >> >> >> Just "deem" it passed, of course! > > > > >> >> >> The Democrats in 'power' now are just too unbelievable! > > > > >> >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the > > > >> >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, and > > > >> >> > prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating prescription drug > > > >> >> > prices? All of which were not paid for? > > > > >> >> You need to keep up. Google "Slaughter rule" > > > > >> >> Nothing at all like reconciliation. Your rights and your voice are > > > >> >> being yanked out from under you and you still cheer. > > > > >> >> This is REALLY sad. > > > > >> > So did the same thing happen when the repugnicans did the same thing 3 > > > >> > times? > > > > >> Goddammit! this is NOT RECONCILIATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > >> This is a total subversion of the system! The Speaker of the House would > > > >> have the power to call a bill passed merely because She Says So! > > > > >> It is WRONG and is NOT what the Constitution called for! > > > > >> This is the same as the President saying, "I want *this* and I said so, > > > >> so it is law." > > > > >> This is NOT what we have Representative government for.- Hide quoted > > > >> text - > > > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > In case you're unfamiliar, the Slaughter Rule is named after Louise "she > > > wore her dead sister's dentures" Slaughter and it works like this: The > > > speaker brings a bill containing a list of changes that the House wants to > > > make to the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. When the House members > > > vote for and pass this list of changes to the Senate bill, the House will > > > deem the Senate bill as passed as well, even though the Senate bill itself > > > was never voted on to begin with. > > > > And how is this different from what the repugnicans did to pass Boy > > George's legislation? > > > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] > > - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03] > > - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, > > 5/11/06] > > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05]- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > Geez tax cuts and deficit reduction. Those evil republicans.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - They are good only if they are offset, that is, paid for. Boy George's tax cuts were not paid for. And whatever deficit reduction he planned for he never even attempted. The deficit Boy George left for Obama was firggin' huge. |