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From: edspyhill01 on 12 Mar 2010 22:57 On Mar 12, 4:33 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:54:58 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the > >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, and > >> > prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating prescription drug > >> > prices? All of which were not paid for?- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > Repugnican reconciliations during the Cheney presidency. > > > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR > > 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR > > 4297, 5/11/06] > > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] > > > GOP Senators Who Used Budget Reconciliation > > We are NOT Talking Reconcilition here! THis is a new "rule" thought up by > the Congresswoman with the constituent who wears her dead sister's teeth. > Slaughter. > > THis would BYPASS ANY kind of a vote or Reconciliation! > > Congress should NOT have the power to pass a bill because the Speaker says > so! > > If the Republican tried this kind of bullshit you'd be howling at the m00n!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - It's Reconciliation. The repugnicans and Boy George used it for: - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06] - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05]
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 12 Mar 2010 23:25 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:57:42 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > On Mar 12, 4:33 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:54:58 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >> >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the >> >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, and >> >> > prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating prescription drug >> >> > prices? All of which were not paid for?- Hide quoted text - >> >> >> - Show quoted text - >> >> > Repugnican reconciliations during the Cheney presidency. >> >> > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts >> > [HR 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of >> > 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06] >> > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] >> >> > GOP Senators Who Used Budget Reconciliation >> >> We are NOT Talking Reconcilition here! THis is a new "rule" thought up >> by the Congresswoman with the constituent who wears her dead sister's >> teeth. Slaughter. >> >> THis would BYPASS ANY kind of a vote or Reconciliation! >> >> Congress should NOT have the power to pass a bill because the Speaker >> says so! >> >> If the Republican tried this kind of bullshit you'd be howling at the >> m00n!- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > It's Reconciliation. The repugnicans and Boy George used it for: > > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR > 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR > 4297, 5/11/06] > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] In case you're unfamiliar, the Slaughter Rule is named after Louise "she wore her dead sister's dentures" Slaughter and it works like this: The speaker brings a bill containing a list of changes that the House wants to make to the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. When the House members vote for and pass this list of changes to the Senate bill, the House will deem the Senate bill as passed as well, even though the Senate bill itself was never voted on to begin with.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 12 Mar 2010 23:26 On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:56:15 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > On Mar 12, 4:36 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:45:44 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >> > On Mar 12, 9:13 am, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:10:41 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: >> >> > On Mar 11, 10:53 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> >> >> Just "deem" it passed, of course! >> >> >> >> The Democrats in 'power' now are just too unbelievable! >> >> >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the >> >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, and >> >> > prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating prescription drug >> >> > prices? All of which were not paid for? >> >> >> You need to keep up. Google "Slaughter rule" >> >> >> Nothing at all like reconciliation. Your rights and your voice are >> >> being yanked out from under you and you still cheer. >> >> >> This is REALLY sad. >> >> > So did the same thing happen when the repugnicans did the same thing 3 >> > times? >> >> Goddammit! this is NOT RECONCILIATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> This is a total subversion of the system! The Speaker of the House would >> have the power to call a bill passed merely because She Says So! >> >> It is WRONG and is NOT what the Constitution called for! >> >> This is the same as the President saying, "I want *this* and I said so, >> so it is law." >> >> This is NOT what we have Representative government for.- Hide quoted >> text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > In case you're unfamiliar, the Slaughter Rule is named after Louise "she wore her dead sister's dentures" Slaughter and it works like this: The speaker brings a bill containing a list of changes that the House wants to make to the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. When the House members vote for and pass this list of changes to the Senate bill, the House will deem the Senate bill as passed as well, even though the Senate bill itself was never voted on to begin with. > > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR > 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR > 4297, 5/11/06] > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05]
From: edspyhill01 on 13 Mar 2010 05:43 On Mar 12, 11:25 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:57:42 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > > On Mar 12, 4:33 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:54:58 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > >> >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the > >> >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, and > >> >> > prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating prescription drug > >> >> > prices? All of which were not paid for?- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text - > > >> > Repugnican reconciliations during the Cheney presidency. > > >> > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts > >> > [HR 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of > >> > 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06] > >> > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] > > >> > GOP Senators Who Used Budget Reconciliation > > >> We are NOT Talking Reconcilition here! THis is a new "rule" thought up > >> by the Congresswoman with the constituent who wears her dead sister's > >> teeth. Slaughter. > > >> THis would BYPASS ANY kind of a vote or Reconciliation! > > >> Congress should NOT have the power to pass a bill because the Speaker > >> says so! > > >> If the Republican tried this kind of bullshit you'd be howling at the > >> m00n!- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > > It's Reconciliation. The repugnicans and Boy George used it for: > > > - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR > > 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR > > 4297, 5/11/06] > > - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] > > In case you're unfamiliar, the Slaughter Rule is named after Louise "she > wore her dead sister's dentures" Slaughter and it works like this: The > speaker brings a bill containing a list of changes that the House wants to > make to the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. When the House members > vote for and pass this list of changes to the Senate bill, the House will > deem the Senate bill as passed as well, even though the Senate bill itself > was never voted on to begin with.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - And how is this different from what the repugnicans did to pass Boy George's legislation? - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06] - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05]
From: edspyhill01 on 13 Mar 2010 05:44
On Mar 12, 11:26 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:56:15 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > > On Mar 12, 4:36 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> On Fri, 12 Mar 2010 12:45:44 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > >> > On Mar 12, 9:13 am, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> >> On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:10:41 -0800, edspyhill01 wrote: > >> >> > On Mar 11, 10:53 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> >> >> Just "deem" it passed, of course! > > >> >> >> The Democrats in 'power' now are just too unbelievable! > > >> >> > You don't mean the use of reconciliation, used by Bush and the > >> >> > repugnicans to pass tax cuts for the rich, Medicare Advantage, and > >> >> > prescription drug plan that outlawed negotiating prescription drug > >> >> > prices? All of which were not paid for? > > >> >> You need to keep up. Google "Slaughter rule" > > >> >> Nothing at all like reconciliation. Your rights and your voice are > >> >> being yanked out from under you and you still cheer. > > >> >> This is REALLY sad. > > >> > So did the same thing happen when the repugnicans did the same thing 3 > >> > times? > > >> Goddammit! this is NOT RECONCILIATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > >> This is a total subversion of the system! The Speaker of the House would > >> have the power to call a bill passed merely because She Says So! > > >> It is WRONG and is NOT what the Constitution called for! > > >> This is the same as the President saying, "I want *this* and I said so, > >> so it is law." > > >> This is NOT what we have Representative government for.- Hide quoted > >> text - > > >> - Show quoted text - > > In case you're unfamiliar, the Slaughter Rule is named after Louise "she > wore her dead sister's dentures" Slaughter and it works like this: The > speaker brings a bill containing a list of changes that the House wants to > make to the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. When the House members > vote for and pass this list of changes to the Senate bill, the House will > deem the Senate bill as passed as well, even though the Senate bill itself > was never voted on to begin with. > > > And how is this different from what the repugnicans did to pass Boy George's legislation? - The 2001 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 1836, 3/26/01] - The 2003 Bush Tax Cuts [HR 2, 3/23/03] - Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005 [HR 4297, 5/11/06] - The Deficit Reduction Act of 2005 [H. Con Res. 95, 12/21/05] |