From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.09.28.19.20.06.953776(a)e86.GTS...
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS...
>>> $500M
>>>
>>> For a hybrid.
>>> To be built in Finland.
>>> That will probably not be sold in the US.
>>>
>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* money!
>>
>>
>>
>> Source. Now.
>
> Why don't you pay attention?


Did you originally get the story from television?


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:02:42 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C94649204100tegger(a)208.90.168.18...
>> Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in news:Xns9C946362CDFABtegger@
>> 208.90.168.18:
>>
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in
>>> news:r43wm.445253 $Ta5.383991(a)newsfe15.iad:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS...
>>>>> $500M
>>>>>
>>>>> For a hybrid.
>>>>> To be built in Finland.
>>>>> That will probably not be sold in the US.
>>>>>
>>>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR*
>>>>> money!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Source. Now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Wall Street Journal, for one.
>>> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Except that it looks like the "Karma" WILL be sold in the US: "The
>> four-door Karma, powered by a lithium-ion battery, will be able to run
>> solely on electric power for 50 miles, and will achieve an average fuel
>> economy of 100 mpg over the span of a year, the company says. Production
>> is
>> scheduled to start in December, with about 15,000 vehicles a year
>> expected to hit the U.S. market starting next June."
>>
>> If Gore's $529 million is amortized over a typical 4-year model cycle,
>> that
>> means each car (assuming production of 15K per year) actually costs
>> about $98,000, not $89,000.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>>
>
> Who knows? Maybe the company will get lucky and hire one person who has an
> "Ah ha!" moment that nobody else does (at other car companies), and some
> ground-breaking technology will be the result.
>
> I wonder how much criticism this would receive if Gore was just a customer
> and not connected with one of the venture capital firms backing the
> company. But even with these factors in place, this is a non-event.

Giving US money to a foreign manufacturer is a 'non event'?

Putz.

From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.09.28.19.21.50.745567(a)e86.GTS...
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 10:02:42 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9C94649204100tegger(a)208.90.168.18...
>>> Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in news:Xns9C946362CDFABtegger@
>>> 208.90.168.18:
>>>
>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in
>>>> news:r43wm.445253 $Ta5.383991(a)newsfe15.iad:
>>>>
>>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS...
>>>>>> $500M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a hybrid.
>>>>>> To be built in Finland.
>>>>>> That will probably not be sold in the US.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR*
>>>>>> money!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Source. Now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Wall Street Journal, for one.
>>>> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Except that it looks like the "Karma" WILL be sold in the US: "The
>>> four-door Karma, powered by a lithium-ion battery, will be able to run
>>> solely on electric power for 50 miles, and will achieve an average fuel
>>> economy of 100 mpg over the span of a year, the company says. Production
>>> is
>>> scheduled to start in December, with about 15,000 vehicles a year
>>> expected to hit the U.S. market starting next June."
>>>
>>> If Gore's $529 million is amortized over a typical 4-year model cycle,
>>> that
>>> means each car (assuming production of 15K per year) actually costs
>>> about $98,000, not $89,000.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tegger
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Who knows? Maybe the company will get lucky and hire one person who has
>> an
>> "Ah ha!" moment that nobody else does (at other car companies), and some
>> ground-breaking technology will be the result.
>>
>> I wonder how much criticism this would receive if Gore was just a
>> customer
>> and not connected with one of the venture capital firms backing the
>> company. But even with these factors in place, this is a non-event.
>
> Giving US money to a foreign manufacturer is a 'non event'?
>
> Putz.
>


You give money to a foreign manufacturer all day long. So do I.

I like your new signature, by the way. Finally something accurate.


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:22:28 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.09.28.19.20.06.953776(a)e86.GTS...
>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS...
>>>> $500M
>>>>
>>>> For a hybrid.
>>>> To be built in Finland.
>>>> That will probably not be sold in the US.
>>>>
>>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* money!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Source. Now.
>>
>> Why don't you pay attention?
>
>
> Did you originally get the story from television?

It was all over all the networks.



From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.09.28.19.54.49.799764(a)e86.GTS...
> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 15:22:28 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:pan.2009.09.28.19.20.06.953776(a)e86.GTS...
>>> On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS...
>>>>> $500M
>>>>>
>>>>> For a hybrid.
>>>>> To be built in Finland.
>>>>> That will probably not be sold in the US.
>>>>>
>>>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* money!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Source. Now.
>>>
>>> Why don't you pay attention?
>>
>>
>> Did you originally get the story from television?
>
> It was all over all the networks.


Television networks, right?