From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message
news:Xns9C94649204100tegger(a)208.90.168.18...
> Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in news:Xns9C946362CDFABtegger@
> 208.90.168.18:
>
>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:r43wm.445253
>> $Ta5.383991(a)newsfe15.iad:
>>
>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS...
>>>> $500M
>>>>
>>>> For a hybrid.
>>>> To be built in Finland.
>>>> That will probably not be sold in the US.
>>>>
>>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* money!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Source. Now.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> The Wall Street Journal, for one.
>> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html>
>>
>>
>
>
> Except that it looks like the "Karma" WILL be sold in the US:
> "The four-door Karma, powered by a lithium-ion battery, will be able to
> run
> solely on electric power for 50 miles, and will achieve an average fuel
> economy of 100 mpg over the span of a year, the company says. Production
> is
> scheduled to start in December, with about 15,000 vehicles a year expected
> to hit the U.S. market starting next June."
>
> If Gore's $529 million is amortized over a typical 4-year model cycle,
> that
> means each car (assuming production of 15K per year) actually costs about
> $98,000, not $89,000.
>
>
> --
> Tegger
>


Who knows? Maybe the company will get lucky and hire one person who has an
"Ah ha!" moment that nobody else does (at other car companies), and some
ground-breaking technology will be the result.

I wonder how much criticism this would receive if Gore was just a customer
and not connected with one of the venture capital firms backing the company.
But even with these factors in place, this is a non-event.


From: Fatter Than Ever Moe on
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
> "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message
> news:Xns9C94649204100tegger(a)208.90.168.18...
>> Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in news:Xns9C946362CDFABtegger@
>> 208.90.168.18:
>>
>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:r43wm.445253
>>> $Ta5.383991(a)newsfe15.iad:
>>>
>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS...
>>>>> $500M
>>>>>
>>>>> For a hybrid.
>>>>> To be built in Finland.
>>>>> That will probably not be sold in the US.
>>>>>
>>>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* money!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Source. Now.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Wall Street Journal, for one.
>>> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Except that it looks like the "Karma" WILL be sold in the US:
>> "The four-door Karma, powered by a lithium-ion battery, will be able to
>> run
>> solely on electric power for 50 miles, and will achieve an average fuel
>> economy of 100 mpg over the span of a year, the company says. Production
>> is
>> scheduled to start in December, with about 15,000 vehicles a year expected
>> to hit the U.S. market starting next June."
>>
>> If Gore's $529 million is amortized over a typical 4-year model cycle,
>> that
>> means each car (assuming production of 15K per year) actually costs about
>> $98,000, not $89,000.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Tegger
>>
>
>
> Who knows? Maybe the company will get lucky and hire one person who has an
> "Ah ha!" moment that nobody else does (at other car companies), and some
> ground-breaking technology will be the result.
>
> I wonder how much criticism this would receive if Gore was just a customer
> and not connected with one of the venture capital firms backing the company.
> But even with these factors in place, this is a non-event.
>
>

Until there is some kind of break through in energy density of
batteries electric cars will be golf carts with turn signals and
windshields.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Fatter Than Ever Moe" <HardTimes(a)TheFarm> wrote in message
news:4ac0c551$0$23777$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net...
> JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>> "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message
>> news:Xns9C94649204100tegger(a)208.90.168.18...
>>> Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in news:Xns9C946362CDFABtegger@
>>> 208.90.168.18:
>>>
>>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in
>>>> news:r43wm.445253
>>>> $Ta5.383991(a)newsfe15.iad:
>>>>
>>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>>>>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS...
>>>>>> $500M
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For a hybrid.
>>>>>> To be built in Finland.
>>>>>> That will probably not be sold in the US.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR*
>>>>>> money!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Source. Now.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The Wall Street Journal, for one.
>>>> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Except that it looks like the "Karma" WILL be sold in the US:
>>> "The four-door Karma, powered by a lithium-ion battery, will be able to
>>> run
>>> solely on electric power for 50 miles, and will achieve an average fuel
>>> economy of 100 mpg over the span of a year, the company says. Production
>>> is
>>> scheduled to start in December, with about 15,000 vehicles a year
>>> expected
>>> to hit the U.S. market starting next June."
>>>
>>> If Gore's $529 million is amortized over a typical 4-year model cycle,
>>> that
>>> means each car (assuming production of 15K per year) actually costs
>>> about
>>> $98,000, not $89,000.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tegger
>>>
>>
>>
>> Who knows? Maybe the company will get lucky and hire one person who has
>> an "Ah ha!" moment that nobody else does (at other car companies), and
>> some ground-breaking technology will be the result.
>>
>> I wonder how much criticism this would receive if Gore was just a
>> customer and not connected with one of the venture capital firms backing
>> the company. But even with these factors in place, this is a non-event.
>
> Until there is some kind of break through in energy density of batteries
> electric cars will be golf carts with turn signals and windshields.


Maybe, maybe not.


From: Mark on
You're a rude, overbearing putz, but you already knew that.


On Sep 28, 9:43 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net>
wrote:
>
> Source. Now.

From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS...
>> $500M
>>
>> For a hybrid.
>> To be built in Finland.
>> That will probably not be sold in the US.
>>
>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* money!
>
>
>
> Source. Now.

Why don't you pay attention?