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From: JoeSpareBedroom on 28 Sep 2009 10:02 "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message news:Xns9C94649204100tegger(a)208.90.168.18... > Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in news:Xns9C946362CDFABtegger@ > 208.90.168.18: > >> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:r43wm.445253 >> $Ta5.383991(a)newsfe15.iad: >> >>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS... >>>> $500M >>>> >>>> For a hybrid. >>>> To be built in Finland. >>>> That will probably not be sold in the US. >>>> >>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* money! >>> >>> >>> >>> Source. Now. >>> >>> >> >> >> The Wall Street Journal, for one. >> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html> >> >> > > > Except that it looks like the "Karma" WILL be sold in the US: > "The four-door Karma, powered by a lithium-ion battery, will be able to > run > solely on electric power for 50 miles, and will achieve an average fuel > economy of 100 mpg over the span of a year, the company says. Production > is > scheduled to start in December, with about 15,000 vehicles a year expected > to hit the U.S. market starting next June." > > If Gore's $529 million is amortized over a typical 4-year model cycle, > that > means each car (assuming production of 15K per year) actually costs about > $98,000, not $89,000. > > > -- > Tegger > Who knows? Maybe the company will get lucky and hire one person who has an "Ah ha!" moment that nobody else does (at other car companies), and some ground-breaking technology will be the result. I wonder how much criticism this would receive if Gore was just a customer and not connected with one of the venture capital firms backing the company. But even with these factors in place, this is a non-event.
From: Fatter Than Ever Moe on 28 Sep 2009 10:16 JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message > news:Xns9C94649204100tegger(a)208.90.168.18... >> Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in news:Xns9C946362CDFABtegger@ >> 208.90.168.18: >> >>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in news:r43wm.445253 >>> $Ta5.383991(a)newsfe15.iad: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS... >>>>> $500M >>>>> >>>>> For a hybrid. >>>>> To be built in Finland. >>>>> That will probably not be sold in the US. >>>>> >>>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* money! >>>> >>>> >>>> Source. Now. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> The Wall Street Journal, for one. >>> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html> >>> >>> >> >> Except that it looks like the "Karma" WILL be sold in the US: >> "The four-door Karma, powered by a lithium-ion battery, will be able to >> run >> solely on electric power for 50 miles, and will achieve an average fuel >> economy of 100 mpg over the span of a year, the company says. Production >> is >> scheduled to start in December, with about 15,000 vehicles a year expected >> to hit the U.S. market starting next June." >> >> If Gore's $529 million is amortized over a typical 4-year model cycle, >> that >> means each car (assuming production of 15K per year) actually costs about >> $98,000, not $89,000. >> >> >> -- >> Tegger >> > > > Who knows? Maybe the company will get lucky and hire one person who has an > "Ah ha!" moment that nobody else does (at other car companies), and some > ground-breaking technology will be the result. > > I wonder how much criticism this would receive if Gore was just a customer > and not connected with one of the venture capital firms backing the company. > But even with these factors in place, this is a non-event. > > Until there is some kind of break through in energy density of batteries electric cars will be golf carts with turn signals and windshields.
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 28 Sep 2009 10:24 "Fatter Than Ever Moe" <HardTimes(a)TheFarm> wrote in message news:4ac0c551$0$23777$bbae4d71(a)news.suddenlink.net... > JoeSpareBedroom wrote: >> "Tegger" <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in message >> news:Xns9C94649204100tegger(a)208.90.168.18... >>> Tegger <invalid(a)invalid.inv> wrote in news:Xns9C946362CDFABtegger@ >>> 208.90.168.18: >>> >>>> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstrash(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in >>>> news:r43wm.445253 >>>> $Ta5.383991(a)newsfe15.iad: >>>> >>>>> "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>>> news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS... >>>>>> $500M >>>>>> >>>>>> For a hybrid. >>>>>> To be built in Finland. >>>>>> That will probably not be sold in the US. >>>>>> >>>>>> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* >>>>>> money! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Source. Now. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> The Wall Street Journal, for one. >>>> <http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Except that it looks like the "Karma" WILL be sold in the US: >>> "The four-door Karma, powered by a lithium-ion battery, will be able to >>> run >>> solely on electric power for 50 miles, and will achieve an average fuel >>> economy of 100 mpg over the span of a year, the company says. Production >>> is >>> scheduled to start in December, with about 15,000 vehicles a year >>> expected >>> to hit the U.S. market starting next June." >>> >>> If Gore's $529 million is amortized over a typical 4-year model cycle, >>> that >>> means each car (assuming production of 15K per year) actually costs >>> about >>> $98,000, not $89,000. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Tegger >>> >> >> >> Who knows? Maybe the company will get lucky and hire one person who has >> an "Ah ha!" moment that nobody else does (at other car companies), and >> some ground-breaking technology will be the result. >> >> I wonder how much criticism this would receive if Gore was just a >> customer and not connected with one of the venture capital firms backing >> the company. But even with these factors in place, this is a non-event. > > Until there is some kind of break through in energy density of batteries > electric cars will be golf carts with turn signals and windshields. Maybe, maybe not.
From: Mark on 28 Sep 2009 11:37 You're a rude, overbearing putz, but you already knew that. On Sep 28, 9:43 am, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote: > > Source. Now.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 28 Sep 2009 15:20
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 09:43:54 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > "Hachiroku" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2009.09.28.17.39.42.796000(a)e86.GTS... >> $500M >> >> For a hybrid. >> To be built in Finland. >> That will probably not be sold in the US. >> >> Way to go, Al! Push your agenda all over the world, using *OUR* money! > > > > Source. Now. Why don't you pay attention? |