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From: dr_jeff on 10 Dec 2009 20:29 Tegger wrote: > Hachiroku <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in news:hfr056$r8o$4(a)news.eternal-september.org: > >> 1700 scientists have signed a petition in the UK saying, based on the >> observational evidence, global warming is man-made. >> >> >> OK. Key word...observational. >> >> > > > > They're trying to deflect attention from another > inconvenient statistic: 60. > > What is 60? > > That's how many scientists in the IPCC's > latest Assessement Report actually agreed that "global warming" > is man-made and is a bad thing. > > Not 4,000 scientists. Not 3,750. Not 2,890. But 60. > > <http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/11/07/lawrence-solomon-numbers-racket.aspx> > > Excerpt: > > "The 53 authors and seven favourable reviewers represent > a total of 60 people, leading McLean to conclude: 'There > is only evidence that about 60 people explicitly supported > the claim' made by the IPCC that global warming represents > a threat to the planet. Sixty scientists among the 130-plus > countries that the IPCC cites amounts to one scientist > for every two countries." How misleading can you be? They are talking about 60 people who contributed to or commented about a particular chapter. That has nothing to do with whether the other 2830 scientists at the meeting agreed with the statement. And disagreement about a chapter in a publication about global warming is different disagreeing global warming. Get a clue, man.
From: dr_jeff on 10 Dec 2009 20:31 edspyhill01 wrote: > On Dec 10, 9:21 am, Hachiroku <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > The participants at the meeting agreed that their views � as > scientists, economists and passionate lay people � were not taken > seriously enough. for their views to be taken seriously, they have to be backed by evidence. What evidence backs their views? And how their views backed by evidence better than the other views?
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 10 Dec 2009 20:56 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:00 -0500, dr_jeff wrote: > Hachiroku wrote: >> 1700 scientists have signed a petition in the UK saying, based on the >> observational evidence, global warming is man-made. >> >> >> OK. Key word...observational. > > Yet, global warming is based on far more than just observational evidence. > > Jeff That's not what these scientists said. Try to prove your statement.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 10 Dec 2009 21:01 On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:29:01 -0500, dr_jeff wrote: > Tegger wrote: >> Hachiroku <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in >> news:hfr056$r8o$4(a)news.eternal-september.org: >> >>> 1700 scientists have signed a petition in the UK saying, based on the >>> observational evidence, global warming is man-made. >>> >>> >>> OK. Key word...observational. >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> They're trying to deflect attention from another inconvenient statistic: >> 60. >> >> What is 60? >> >> That's how many scientists in the IPCC's latest Assessement Report >> actually agreed that "global warming" is man-made and is a bad thing. >> >> Not 4,000 scientists. Not 3,750. Not 2,890. But 60. >> >> <http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fpcomment/archive/2009/11/07/lawrence-solomon-numbers-racket.aspx> >> >> Excerpt: >> >> "The 53 authors and seven favourable reviewers represent a total of 60 >> people, leading McLean to conclude: 'There is only evidence that about >> 60 people explicitly supported the claim' made by the IPCC that global >> warming represents a threat to the planet. Sixty scientists among the >> 130-plus countries that the IPCC cites amounts to one scientist for >> every two countries." > > How misleading can you be? They are talking about 60 people who > contributed to or commented about a particular chapter. That has nothing > to do with whether the other 2830 scientists at the meeting agreed with > the statement. > > And disagreement about a chapter in a publication about global warming is > different disagreeing global warming. > > Get a clue, man. We have a clue. Since the release of the emails, they are in CYA mode. Have you heard all of the POLITICIANS who are once again ramping up the Global Warming warnings?
From: dr_jeff on 10 Dec 2009 21:02
Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:21:00 -0500, dr_jeff wrote: > >> Hachiroku wrote: >>> 1700 scientists have signed a petition in the UK saying, based on the >>> observational evidence, global warming is man-made. >>> >>> >>> OK. Key word...observational. >> Yet, global warming is based on far more than just observational evidence. >> >> Jeff > > That's not what these scientists said. > > Try to prove your statement. Read the full report from the actual conference. It's available for free here: http://www.ipcc.ch/ |