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From: badgolferman on 12 Apr 2010 11:20
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/109278/worst-made-cars-on-the-road?mod=family-home

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From: lil abner on 12 Apr 2010 22:59
all of them.
NHTSA is designing uncomfortable, unattractive, and grosely over
expensive automobiles for Manufacturers. Together with the EPA they are
destroying the Industry and Americans capability to afford an automobile
and the fuel for them.
It is no accident they are doing this now.
Have you sat in the new midget seats with headrest that force your head
inot your chest and press your spine toward the windshield, and flat
hard bottom boards for the seat bottoms????
How many thousand dollar or more air bags is in your car?
How do you like being forced by empiral edict and threat, of taking
food, from your table, if you don't wear an aggravating belt, across
your body. How about the lie that it saves lives? There are as many
killed by the belts as "saved?" How about the permanent chaff marks
across your left shoulder and neck?
How about the brick with pillows at each end design of all cars?
I hear they are going to force us to wear argyle socks too.
From: dr_jeff on 13 Apr 2010 06:38
lil abner wrote:
> all of them.
> NHTSA is designing uncomfortable, unattractive, and grosely over
> expensive automobiles for Manufacturers.

I never knew NHTSA designed cars. I thought the car companies' engineers
did that. Thanks for the correction.

> Together with the EPA they are
> destroying the Industry and Americans capability to afford an automobile
> and the fuel for them.

That doesn't make sense. The EPA is requiring higher mileage for cars.
That means less fuel burned. That will extend the fuel supply. The fuel
supply is limited because there is a limited amount of fossil fuels in
the ground, most of which are not controlled by the US.

> It is no accident they are doing this now.

Correct. Congress empowered them to do this. And, a Supreme Court,
mostly chosen by Republicans, even said that it is the EPA's duty to
regulate Green House gases like CO2.

> Have you sat in the new midget seats with headrest that force your head
> inot your chest and press your spine toward the windshield, and flat
> hard bottom boards for the seat bottoms????

No. I have great seats. I guess I paid more for my car. Try something
new: Save your money and buy something nice.

> How many thousand dollar or more air bags is in your car?

How expensive is a life saved?

> How do you like being forced by empiral edict and threat, of taking
> food, from your table, if you don't wear an aggravating belt, across
> your body.

Empiral edict? Or US and state laws voted on by our legislatures?

> How about the lie that it saves lives?

What lie? Has the death rate per million miles driven been going up or
down over the years? DOWN. And part of the reason is seat belts and air
bags.

> There are as many
> killed by the belts as "saved?"

Really? How many people have been killed by seat belts? Evidence (i.e.,
peer-reviewed research or other reliable evidence) please.

> How about the permanent chaff marks
> across your left shoulder and neck?

I ride a lot in cars and don't have them.

> How about the brick with pillows at each end design of all cars?

Even if you were correct (you're not), safety is very important.

> I hear they are going to force us to wear argyle socks too.

ROTFL!

Have a lovely day. I am glad you were able to get your stupid rant out
of the way today!
From: Mike Hunter on 13 Apr 2010 10:46
Is anyone surprised that our control freak dr_jeff, is in favor of the
federal governments desire to control more and more of the aspect of our
lives?

Now that it has control of our health care system, government control can
really going to begin to flourish. LOL

"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
news:LsudnVpFx44C1FnWnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d(a)giganews.com...
> lil abner wrote:
>> all of them.
>> NHTSA is designing uncomfortable, unattractive, and grosely over
>> expensive automobiles for Manufacturers.
>
> I never knew NHTSA designed cars. I thought the car companies' engineers
> did that. Thanks for the correction.
>
>> Together with the EPA they are destroying the Industry and Americans
>> capability to afford an automobile and the fuel for them.
>
> That doesn't make sense. The EPA is requiring higher mileage for cars.
> That means less fuel burned. That will extend the fuel supply. The fuel
> supply is limited because there is a limited amount of fossil fuels in the
> ground, most of which are not controlled by the US.
>
>> It is no accident they are doing this now.
>
> Correct. Congress empowered them to do this. And, a Supreme Court, mostly
> chosen by Republicans, even said that it is the EPA's duty to regulate
> Green House gases like CO2.
>
>> Have you sat in the new midget seats with headrest that force your head
>> inot your chest and press your spine toward the windshield, and flat hard
>> bottom boards for the seat bottoms????
>
> No. I have great seats. I guess I paid more for my car. Try something new:
> Save your money and buy something nice.
>
>> How many thousand dollar or more air bags is in your car?
>
> How expensive is a life saved?
>
>> How do you like being forced by empiral edict and threat, of taking food,
>> from your table, if you don't wear an aggravating belt, across your body.
>
> Empiral edict? Or US and state laws voted on by our legislatures?
>
>> How about the lie that it saves lives?
>
> What lie? Has the death rate per million miles driven been going up or
> down over the years? DOWN. And part of the reason is seat belts and air
> bags.
>
>> There are as many killed by the belts as "saved?"
>
> Really? How many people have been killed by seat belts? Evidence (i.e.,
> peer-reviewed research or other reliable evidence) please.
>
>> How about the permanent chaff marks across your left shoulder and neck?
>
> I ride a lot in cars and don't have them.
>
>> How about the brick with pillows at each end design of all cars?
>
> Even if you were correct (you're not), safety is very important.
>
>> I hear they are going to force us to wear argyle socks too.
>
> ROTFL!
>
> Have a lovely day. I am glad you were able to get your stupid rant out of
> the way today!


From: Clive on 14 Apr 2010 19:40
In message <u6Rwn.76099$NH1.71864(a)newsfe14.iad>, lil abner
<?@?.?.invalid> writes
>There are as many killed by the belts as "saved?"
Bullshit, the success rates for belts is 85%
--
Clive

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