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From: Michael on 3 Mar 2010 22:39 Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- really-long) as approved replacement plugs. Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum. Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. Toyota part 90919-01194. Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones?
From: C. E. White on 3 Mar 2010 23:26 I'd suggest looking at the Denso on-line application guide. See: http://www.globaldenso.com/cgi-bin/global/plug/usa/4w/4w-plug.cgi?name=CAMRY&filename=4w-63.txt&action=search PK20TR11 is the Denso Part Number for Platinum Plugs. The Iridium Power Plugs for your car are Denso P/N IK20. The P/N for the cheap Denso plug for your application is K20TR11. My guess is that these are the $3 plugs. However, Toyota is recommending Denso Plug P/N PK20TR11 for your car, so that is what I would use. If you prefer NGK plugs, they have an online guide at: http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/part_finder/car_truck_suv/default.asp?mode=nml They list the following plugs for your car: Standard - P/N BKR6ES-11 Stock No. 5553 V-Power - P/N BKR6EYA Stock No. 7990 G-Power - P/N BKR6EGP Stock No. 7092 Laser Platinum - P/N BKR6EKPB-11 Stock No. 3452 - NGK refers to this as the OE Service Part Iridium IX - P/N BKR6EIX-11 Stock No. 3764 I checked a few on line stores for prices: Autozone carries NGK IX Iridium as stock number 3764 for $6.99 each Advance Auto carries the following plugs: *Denso IK20 Spark Plug Stock # 5304 - $8.49 *Denso PK20TR11 Spark Plug Stock # 3253 - $6.99 *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3452 - $9.89 *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3764 - $5.99 *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 7092 - $2.59 If I was buying the plugs, I'd go with the Denso P/N PK20TR11 (Stock # 3253) plugs as my first choice. Second choice woiuld be the NGK P/N BKR6EKPB-11 (Stock # 3452 ) as my second choice. I would not go with the $3 plugs. I also would run away from Autolite, Bosch, Champion, and AC plugs no matter what they claim about being right for your application. Ed "Michael" <mrdarrett(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:162a3c2f-692f-42ed-924d-ad9758865174(a)l12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- > really-long) as approved replacement plugs. > > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. > > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum. > > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. > Toyota part 90919-01194. > > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones?
From: Michael on 4 Mar 2010 01:54 On Mar 3, 8:26 pm, "C. E. White" <cewhite3rem...(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > I'd suggest looking at the Denso on-line application guide. See: > > http://www.globaldenso.com/cgi-bin/global/plug/usa/4w/4w-plug.cgi?nam... > > PK20TR11 is the Denso Part Number for Platinum Plugs. > The Iridium Power Plugs for your car are Denso P/N IK20. > The P/N for the cheap Denso plug for your application is K20TR11. My guess > is that these are the $3 plugs. However, Toyota is recommending Denso Plug > P/N PK20TR11 for your car, so that is what I would use. > > If you prefer NGK plugs, they have an online guide at: > > http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/part_finder/car_truck_suv/default.asp?mo... > > They list the following plugs for your car: > > Standard - P/N BKR6ES-11 Stock No. 5553 > V-Power - P/N BKR6EYA Stock No. 7990 > G-Power - P/N BKR6EGP Stock No. 7092 > Laser Platinum - P/N BKR6EKPB-11 Stock No. 3452 - NGK refers to this as the > OE Service Part > Iridium IX - P/N BKR6EIX-11 Stock No. 3764 > > I checked a few on line stores for prices: > > Autozone carries NGK IX Iridium as stock number 3764 for $6.99 each > Advance Auto carries the following plugs: > *Denso IK20 Spark Plug Stock # 5304 - $8.49 > *Denso PK20TR11 Spark Plug Stock # 3253 - $6.99 > *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3452 - $9.89 > *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3764 - $5.99 > *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 7092 - $2.59 > > If I was buying the plugs, I'd go with the Denso P/N PK20TR11 (Stock # 3253) > plugs as my first choice. Second choice woiuld be the NGK P/N BKR6EKPB-11 > (Stock # 3452 ) as my second choice. > > I would not go with the $3 plugs. I also would run away from Autolite, > Bosch, Champion, and AC plugs no matter what they claim about being right > for your application. > > Ed > > "Michael" <mrdarr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:162a3c2f-692f-42ed-924d-ad9758865174(a)l12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would > > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- > > really-long) as approved replacement plugs. > > > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really > > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last > > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. > > > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two > > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- > > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for > > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum. > > > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. > > Toyota part 90919-01194. > > > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones? Wow thanks for the research and the sites! Just wondering, what are the drawbacks going for the $3 plugs? Would I get superior mileage going for the more expensive plugs? Or is there the risk that the metal electrode will fall off?
From: Michael on 4 Mar 2010 01:58 On Mar 3, 8:26 pm, "C. E. White" <cewhite3rem...(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > I'd suggest looking at the Denso on-line application guide. See: > > http://www.globaldenso.com/cgi-bin/global/plug/usa/4w/4w-plug.cgi?nam... > > PK20TR11 is the Denso Part Number for Platinum Plugs. > The Iridium Power Plugs for your car are Denso P/N IK20. > The P/N for the cheap Denso plug for your application is K20TR11. My guess > is that these are the $3 plugs. However, Toyota is recommending Denso Plug > P/N PK20TR11 for your car, so that is what I would use. > > If you prefer NGK plugs, they have an online guide at: > > http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/part_finder/car_truck_suv/default.asp?mo... > > They list the following plugs for your car: > > Standard - P/N BKR6ES-11 Stock No. 5553 > V-Power - P/N BKR6EYA Stock No. 7990 > G-Power - P/N BKR6EGP Stock No. 7092 > Laser Platinum - P/N BKR6EKPB-11 Stock No. 3452 - NGK refers to this as the > OE Service Part > Iridium IX - P/N BKR6EIX-11 Stock No. 3764 > > I checked a few on line stores for prices: > > Autozone carries NGK IX Iridium as stock number 3764 for $6.99 each > Advance Auto carries the following plugs: > *Denso IK20 Spark Plug Stock # 5304 - $8.49 > *Denso PK20TR11 Spark Plug Stock # 3253 - $6.99 > *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3452 - $9.89 > *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3764 - $5.99 > *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 7092 - $2.59 > > If I was buying the plugs, I'd go with the Denso P/N PK20TR11 (Stock # 3253) > plugs as my first choice. Second choice woiuld be the NGK P/N BKR6EKPB-11 > (Stock # 3452 ) as my second choice. > > I would not go with the $3 plugs. I also would run away from Autolite, > Bosch, Champion, and AC plugs no matter what they claim about being right > for your application. > > Ed > > "Michael" <mrdarr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:162a3c2f-692f-42ed-924d-ad9758865174(a)l12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would > > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- > > really-long) as approved replacement plugs. > > > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really > > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last > > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. > > > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two > > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- > > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for > > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum. > > > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. > > Toyota part 90919-01194. > > > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones? Yep the NGK BKR6EKPB-11 is the one the manual spec'd, along with the Denso PK20TR11. I'll see what Autozone has in stock. It's also on the way home from work. Thanks again, Michael
From: Michael on 4 Mar 2010 02:10 On Mar 3, 8:26 pm, "C. E. White" <cewhite3rem...(a)mindspring.com> wrote: > I'd suggest looking at the Denso on-line application guide. See: > > http://www.globaldenso.com/cgi-bin/global/plug/usa/4w/4w-plug.cgi?nam... > > PK20TR11 is the Denso Part Number for Platinum Plugs. > The Iridium Power Plugs for your car are Denso P/N IK20. > The P/N for the cheap Denso plug for your application is K20TR11. My guess > is that these are the $3 plugs. However, Toyota is recommending Denso Plug > P/N PK20TR11 for your car, so that is what I would use. > > If you prefer NGK plugs, they have an online guide at: > > http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/part_finder/car_truck_suv/default.asp?mo... > > They list the following plugs for your car: > > Standard - P/N BKR6ES-11 Stock No. 5553 > V-Power - P/N BKR6EYA Stock No. 7990 > G-Power - P/N BKR6EGP Stock No. 7092 > Laser Platinum - P/N BKR6EKPB-11 Stock No. 3452 - NGK refers to this as the > OE Service Part > Iridium IX - P/N BKR6EIX-11 Stock No. 3764 > > I checked a few on line stores for prices: > > Autozone carries NGK IX Iridium as stock number 3764 for $6.99 each > Advance Auto carries the following plugs: > *Denso IK20 Spark Plug Stock # 5304 - $8.49 > *Denso PK20TR11 Spark Plug Stock # 3253 - $6.99 > *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3452 - $9.89 > *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 3764 - $5.99 > *NGK Spark Plug Stock # 7092 - $2.59 > > If I was buying the plugs, I'd go with the Denso P/N PK20TR11 (Stock # 3253) > plugs as my first choice. Second choice woiuld be the NGK P/N BKR6EKPB-11 > (Stock # 3452 ) as my second choice. > > I would not go with the $3 plugs. I also would run away from Autolite, > Bosch, Champion, and AC plugs no matter what they claim about being right > for your application. > > Ed > > "Michael" <mrdarr...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:162a3c2f-692f-42ed-924d-ad9758865174(a)l12g2000prg.googlegroups.com... > > > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would > > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- > > really-long) as approved replacement plugs. > > > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really > > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last > > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. > > > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two > > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- > > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for > > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum. > > > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. > > Toyota part 90919-01194. > > > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones? I just discovered, I have three NGK BKR6EIX-11 iridium spark plugs on my shelf (long story). Would these work? I'd only have to buy one more to fit in the car, if these will work ok.
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