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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 4 Mar 2010 18:23 On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:39:21 -0800, Michael wrote: > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would be > straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- > really-long) as approved replacement plugs. > > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really convenient) > who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last year, and the > NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. > > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two possible > NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- etched... even > the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for about $3 each. Both > NGK, platinum. > > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. Toyota > part 90919-01194. > > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones? I think the ones for $13-14 are Iridium, really no need to use these in your car. Denso Platinum are ~$6 each, these will do just fine. $3 plugs are standard copper, and usually not recommended by Toyota. You could use an NGK V-power or U-Groove, but you'll be changing them again in 20,000-40,000 miles. I'm lazy. $6 for 70-100,000 miles is good for me...
From: Michael on 4 Mar 2010 18:28 On Mar 4, 3:23 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:39:21 -0800, Michael wrote: > > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would be > > straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- > > really-long) as approved replacement plugs. > > > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really convenient) > > who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last year, and the > > NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. > > > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two possible > > NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- etched... even > > the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for about $3 each. Both > > NGK, platinum. > > > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. Toyota > > part 90919-01194. > > > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones? > > I think the ones for $13-14 are Iridium, really no need to use these in > your car. > > Denso Platinum are ~$6 each, these will do just fine. > > $3 plugs are standard copper, and usually not recommended by Toyota. You > could use an NGK V-power or U-Groove, but you'll be changing them again in > 20,000-40,000 miles. > > I'm lazy. $6 for 70-100,000 miles is good for me... Where do you typically find the Denso? I'm thinking of going online at rockauto.com since no one sells them for a reasonable price over here in Sacramento. Thanks, Michael
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 4 Mar 2010 19:19 On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:28:19 -0800, Michael wrote: > On Mar 4, 3:23 pm, Hachiroku ハチロク <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: >> On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:39:21 -0800, Michael wrote: >> > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would >> > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- >> > really-long) as approved replacement plugs. >> >> > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really >> > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last >> > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. >> >> > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two >> > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- >> > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for >> > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum. >> >> > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. >> > Toyota part 90919-01194. >> >> > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones? >> >> I think the ones for $13-14 are Iridium, really no need to use these in >> your car. >> >> Denso Platinum are ~$6 each, these will do just fine. >> >> $3 plugs are standard copper, and usually not recommended by Toyota. You >> could use an NGK V-power or U-Groove, but you'll be changing them again >> in 20,000-40,000 miles. >> >> I'm lazy. $6 for 70-100,000 miles is good for me... > > > Where do you typically find the Denso? I'm thinking of going online at > rockauto.com since no one sells them for a reasonable price over here in > Sacramento. > > Thanks, > > Michael I think I used NGKs from AutoZone. NGK, Denso, about the same. Just don't use Champions if you want the car to actually START below 45 degrees... Your car's easy. I did it on a Supra and had to remove the entire intake! I certainly went with a high-mileage plug!
From: Michael on 4 Mar 2010 19:42 On Mar 4, 4:19 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:28:19 -0800, Michael wrote: > > On Mar 4, 3:23 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:39:21 -0800, Michael wrote: > >> > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would > >> > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- > >> > really-long) as approved replacement plugs. > > >> > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really > >> > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last > >> > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. > > >> > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two > >> > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- > >> > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for > >> > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum. > > >> > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. > >> > Toyota part 90919-01194. > > >> > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones? > > >> I think the ones for $13-14 are Iridium, really no need to use these in > >> your car. > > >> Denso Platinum are ~$6 each, these will do just fine. > > >> $3 plugs are standard copper, and usually not recommended by Toyota. You > >> could use an NGK V-power or U-Groove, but you'll be changing them again > >> in 20,000-40,000 miles. > > >> I'm lazy. $6 for 70-100,000 miles is good for me... > > > Where do you typically find the Denso? I'm thinking of going online at > > rockauto.com since no one sells them for a reasonable price over here in > > Sacramento. > > > Thanks, > > > Michael > > I think I used NGKs from AutoZone. NGK, Denso, about the same. Those are $10 each over here! > Just don't use Champions if you want the car to actually START below 45 > degrees... Ok, thanks. > Your car's easy. I did it on a Supra and had to remove the entire intake! > I certainly went with a high-mileage plug! Point well taken! Michael
From: Michael on 5 Mar 2010 16:16 On Mar 4, 4:19 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > On Thu, 04 Mar 2010 15:28:19 -0800, Michael wrote: > > On Mar 4, 3:23 pm, Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B <Tru...(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 19:39:21 -0800, Michael wrote: > >> > Planning to change the spark plugs in the '99 Camry. Thought it would > >> > be straightforward... the manual gave Denso PK20TR11 and NGK BK-(it's- > >> > really-long) as approved replacement plugs. > > >> > Called one auto supply store (on the way home from work-really > >> > convenient) who told me the spark plug naming convention changed last > >> > year, and the NGK plugs compatible with the car are $14 or so each. > > >> > Called another auto supply store - they gave me a choice of two > >> > possible NGK ones: the expensive one, some $14 or so (it's laser- > >> > etched... even the guy didn't know what that signified) and one for > >> > about $3 each. Both NGK, platinum. > > >> > Called the dealer and they only sell Denso, some $13 each or so. > >> > Toyota part 90919-01194. > > >> > Would I be making a mistake going for the $3 NGK ones? > > >> I think the ones for $13-14 are Iridium, really no need to use these in > >> your car. > > >> Denso Platinum are ~$6 each, these will do just fine. > > >> $3 plugs are standard copper, and usually not recommended by Toyota. You > >> could use an NGK V-power or U-Groove, but you'll be changing them again > >> in 20,000-40,000 miles. > > >> I'm lazy. $6 for 70-100,000 miles is good for me... > > > Where do you typically find the Denso? I'm thinking of going online at > > rockauto.com since no one sells them for a reasonable price over here in > > Sacramento. > > > Thanks, > > > Michael > > I think I used NGKs from AutoZone. NGK, Denso, about the same. > Just don't use Champions if you want the car to actually START below 45 > degrees... > > Your car's easy. I did it on a Supra and had to remove the entire intake! > I certainly went with a high-mileage plug! Finally found the PK20TR11 Densos at CarQuest here. $7.16 each. Beats waiting for an internet order to arrive via mail. Thanks all! Michael Darrett
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