From: mrdarrett on
I went up to the mountains a couple weeks ago (I-80, around Truckee),
in snow / ice, with the tire chains, etc. At around 30 mph, a truck
in front of me spun out; I then applied the brakes, found myself
slipping / spinning out myself, but only by about 30 degrees (the
truck did a 180). No one was hurt.

Now, when I drive on the freeway, whenever there's a turn, I seem to
feel a tendency for the wheels to want to slip, although the car
doesn't, of course. At first I wondered if it was just psychological,
but I'm also wondering if it's an alignment issue, bad shocks (mine
are shot - feels like riding on gravel - still on my To Do List), bad
tie rods, or what.

Feels the same on my car ('96 camry, 4-cyl, 140k miles) and on my
wife's '99 (75k miles, 4 cyl). I get a really panicky feeling when
making any kind of gradual turn, even.

Like I mentioned at top of my post, I never really noticed this before
spinning out.

Tire treads on both cars are pretty much new - thought I should
mention that.

Thanks

Michael

From: Daniel on
mrdarrett(a)gmail.com wrote:
> wondered if it was just psychological,
===
Likely so. Sometimes unsettling experiences can shake you up for a
while.
To check steering play - tie rods, etc., try turning the steering
wheel gently with the engine off. Should move only slightly before
encountering resistance.
I don't know if this is the recommended procedure, but if it were me
I'd likely find a large flat snow covered lot and practice spin outs
to get the feel of the car losing traction, and how it responds.

From: mrdarrett on
On Feb 20, 1:51 pm, "Daniel" <nospampls2...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> mrdarr...(a)gmail.com wrote:
> > wondered if it was just psychological,
>
> ===
> Likely so. Sometimes unsettling experiences can shake you up for a
> while.
> To check steering play - tie rods, etc., try turning the steering
> wheel gently with the engine off. Should move only slightly before
> encountering resistance.
> I don't know if this is the recommended procedure, but if it were me
> I'd likely find a large flat snow covered lot and practice spin outs
> to get the feel of the car losing traction, and how it responds.


Ok, thanks. I'm in Sacramento now - not much chance of finding an
icy / snow-covered lot here, but thanks for the thought...

Michael


From: Art on
Sounds like it is all in your mind.

You think you had a scare. 20 years ago in Rochester, NY it was the end of
the snow season. It started raining and back then no one had temperature
readouts in their cars and temp must have dipped. I take an exit and lose
complete control because the pavement had turned to black ice. Car starts
going off the exit which is above grade about 60 feet and I think to myself
I will be soon tumbling down the cliff. Below I notice is a automotive
salvage yard. I'm thinking to myself that at least I will land in the right
place if I survive and I won't need the car towed. Anyway, somehow the
tires grab some dirt as I am spinning out and the car stops before sliding
down the cliff. I say a few prayers and then I realize another out of
control car is headed my way and will likely push me over the edge. But
somehow his tires also grab dirt and he spins out and ends up parallel to me
a few inches away. It is as if we parked the car next to each other. We
waved and sped off before another car came and knocked us both down the
hill.

Bottom line..... everyone has close calls. Relax.



<mrdarrett(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I went up to the mountains a couple weeks ago (I-80, around Truckee),
> in snow / ice, with the tire chains, etc. At around 30 mph, a truck
> in front of me spun out; I then applied the brakes, found myself
> slipping / spinning out myself, but only by about 30 degrees (the
> truck did a 180). No one was hurt.
>
> Now, when I drive on the freeway, whenever there's a turn, I seem to
> feel a tendency for the wheels to want to slip, although the car
> doesn't, of course. At first I wondered if it was just psychological,
> but I'm also wondering if it's an alignment issue, bad shocks (mine
> are shot - feels like riding on gravel - still on my To Do List), bad
> tie rods, or what.
>
> Feels the same on my car ('96 camry, 4-cyl, 140k miles) and on my
> wife's '99 (75k miles, 4 cyl). I get a really panicky feeling when
> making any kind of gradual turn, even.
>
> Like I mentioned at top of my post, I never really noticed this before
> spinning out.
>
> Tire treads on both cars are pretty much new - thought I should
> mention that.
>
> Thanks
>
> Michael
>


From: EdV on
If you have bad shocks then not only will it feel bumpy, but you will
feel like that the car sways more, which might explain why you feel
you are going to slide.