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From: dr_jeff on 21 Feb 2010 21:02 Tegger wrote: > dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in > news:t7SdnfUTd8wU4xzWnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d(a)giganews.com: > >> Tegger wrote: >>> Clive Coleman <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in >>> news:Nf55nyPxLVgLFwnr(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk: >> <...> >> >>> But the only diesels I know of over here are from Volkswagen. Maybe >>> there are others, but not so I'd know from what I see in traffic. >>> Most gas stations here have at least one diesel pump, but I almost >>> never see anybody using them to refuel a car. They're always at the >>> outside, so that they'll be accessible to trucks. >> All the diesels sold in the US for light vehicles are either made by >> German car companies or in small trucks. Mercedes and BMW are also >> have diesels this year. So does Audi, which is owned by VW (or vice >> versa). Dodge also makes the Sprinter, which is rebadged Mercedes. > > > > Funny you should mention this. > > Had to make a store run this afternoon, and one place I parked there was a > Mercedes diesel van that looked a LOT like a Sprinter. There, on the > grille, was a large notation, "CDI". And it was /definitely/ a diesel. I looked at the Dodge site. There is no Dodge Sprinter listed. No Dodge Ram van either. So Dodge doesn't have a full-size van for the first time in my life. I was intrigued because the Sprinter seems like a good van with a good (though small) market. The Sprinter is being Marketed by Diamler Vans, a new division. They have 119 or so dealers, either Freighliner dealers or Mercedes dealer who were willing to expand in the commercial van business. http://fleetowner.com/management/news/mercedes-benz-sprinter-1217/ So Dodge is now out of the big van business, and Mercedes is gearing up in the US van market. The Sprinter is always been a Mercedes import (although they reassemble some in the US to save on taxes). Jeff >> I think this page is up-to-date: >> <http://www.dieselforum.org/uses/cars-trucks-suvs/diesel-vehicles-curre >> ntly-available-in-us> >> >> Jeff > > >
From: C. E. White on 22 Feb 2010 07:15 Common rail Diesel Injection - at least that is whatr it mean for Daimler product. Ed "Clive Coleman" <clive(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:4Lq0SyA8OSgLFwwj(a)yewbank.demon.co.uk... > As it say's in the header, thanks. > -- > Clive > >
From: Tegger on 22 Feb 2010 19:10 dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in news:9YOdneqL4rI9eBzWnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > Tegger wrote: >> >> Had to make a store run this afternoon, and one place I parked there >> was a Mercedes diesel van that looked a LOT like a Sprinter. There, >> on the grille, was a large notation, "CDI". And it was /definitely/ a >> diesel. > > I looked at the Dodge site. There is no Dodge Sprinter listed. No > Dodge Ram van either. So Dodge doesn't have a full-size van for the > first time in my life. They sell a Dodge Sprinter in the Canadian market. I see them everywhere. /Very/ popular with businesses. <http://www.fleetchrysler.ca/en/Sprinter_2010.php> I suspect they're not sold in the US for the emissions reasons I mentioned before. -- Tegger
From: dr_jeff on 22 Feb 2010 19:36 Tegger wrote: > dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in > news:9YOdneqL4rI9eBzWnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > >> Tegger wrote: > >>> Had to make a store run this afternoon, and one place I parked there >>> was a Mercedes diesel van that looked a LOT like a Sprinter. There, >>> on the grille, was a large notation, "CDI". And it was /definitely/ a >>> diesel. >> I looked at the Dodge site. There is no Dodge Sprinter listed. No >> Dodge Ram van either. So Dodge doesn't have a full-size van for the >> first time in my life. > > > > They sell a Dodge Sprinter in the Canadian market. I see them everywhere. > /Very/ popular with businesses. > <http://www.fleetchrysler.ca/en/Sprinter_2010.php> > > I suspect they're not sold in the US for the emissions reasons I mentioned > before. They are sold in the US by a new division of Diamler. The Dodge Sprinter has always been made and built by Diamler (although the cargo version was partly disassembled in Germany and reassembled in the US to avoid some taxes). They are still sold in the US by a divison of Diamler. http://www.mbsprinterusa.com/ Why would Diamler want a different company (aka Dodge or Chrysler) sell their trucks when they can do it themselves? When Diamler and Chrysler split up (after there merger of equals), Dodge was left without a full-size van. You'll also note that Canada's Chrysler division is only selling 2009 models, not 2010 models. Jeff
From: Tegger on 22 Feb 2010 20:30 dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in news:E7udnZwyivdkvx7WnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d(a)giganews.com: > Tegger wrote: >> dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in >> news:9YOdneqL4rI9eBzWnZ2dnUVZ_qudnZ2d(a)giganews.com: >> >>> Tegger wrote: >> >>>> Had to make a store run this afternoon, and one place I parked >>>> there was a Mercedes diesel van that looked a LOT like a Sprinter. >>>> There, on the grille, was a large notation, "CDI". And it was >>>> /definitely/ a diesel. >>> I looked at the Dodge site. There is no Dodge Sprinter listed. No >>> Dodge Ram van either. So Dodge doesn't have a full-size van for the >>> first time in my life. >> >> >> >> They sell a Dodge Sprinter in the Canadian market. I see them >> everywhere. /Very/ popular with businesses. >> <http://www.fleetchrysler.ca/en/Sprinter_2010.php> >> >> I suspect they're not sold in the US for the emissions reasons I >> mentioned before. > > They are sold in the US by a new division of Diamler. The name is actually DAimler, not DiAmler. Daimler is a German name, bequeathed by Gottlieb Daimler, whose company was joined with Karl Benz's in 1926. > The Dodge > Sprinter has always been made and built by Diamler (although the cargo > version was partly disassembled in Germany and reassembled in the US > to avoid some taxes). They are still sold in the US by a divison of > Diamler. > > http://www.mbsprinterusa.com/ Yes! Now I remember reading about these recently in Forbes magazine. Apparently there is an LBJ-era 25% tariff on foreign commercial trucks, which does not apply to passenger trucks. This makes foreign commercials prohibitively expensive in the US. The tariff, believe it or not, was retaliation for some long-forgotten trade fight over US-to-Europe chicken products, somewhere around 1965. IIRC, the Sprinters are actually assembled in Turkey, but with passenger seats installed. The vans are shipped to a US port (can't remember which) and officially imported as passenger vans. Then the seats are removed and sent back to Turkey, and the vans are sold off as commercials. This little dance avoids the 25% tariff. > > Why would Diamler want a different company (aka Dodge or Chrysler) > sell their trucks when they can do it themselves? When Diamler and > Chrysler split up (after there merger of equals), Dodge was left > without a full-size van. Chrysler has not been particularly well-managed since WPC died. They have made numerous and serious tactical mistakes that have kept the company on the verge of disaster ever since. Wouldn't surprise me if this is one of those mistakes. > > You'll also note that Canada's Chrysler division is only selling 2009 > models, not 2010 models. > 2010 MY is in a different place: <http://www.fleetchrysler.ca/en/pdf/2010_Fleet_Cat.pdf> These puppies are way too popular for Chrysler to avoind selling them for 2010. -- Tegger
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