Toyota weighs Corolla engine stalling fix that puts drivers in danger
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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 18 Mar 2010 14:20 On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:59:45 -0400, Scott in Florida wrote: > On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:54:52 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >>On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:52:34 -0400, Scott in Florida wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:39:07 -0400, Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>On Thu, 18 Mar 2010 09:58:42 -0400, C. E. White wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> There were 1,186,448 vehicle targted in the NHTSA request for >>>>> information. 26 vehicle in 1,186,448 is 0.0022%. >>>> >>>>But that's enough for someone like 'john' to start ringing the alarm. >>>> >>>>I think he's a Class Action lawyer trying to drum up business. >>>> >>>>Notice how he hits and runs? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Remember 'sludge' caused by drivers not changing their oil????? >> >>It did have something to do with narrower than usual oil passages, but if >>you kept up regular oil changes with quality oil you probably wouldn't >>see it. >> >>BTW, I saw a mint condition '91 or '92 Corolla wagon the other day, >>unusual for this area. Usually they're starting to rust by now. This one >>was perfect. >> >> >> > I marvel at how well the car ('92 Corolla Wagon) is made. > > It has an actual plywood door over the spare. On that door are a number > of attachments that were hand installed. I know you can't do that now > because of cost, but it sure is nice to own one. Same thing on the Supra. Now, if I could only remember what the hell I did with the jack handle...
From: Wayne on 19 Mar 2010 11:06 "john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:a1c9d19d-1041-4d0c-b4ba-2b14ecf9df83(a)z18g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > Last November, NHTSA opened an investigation into the 2006 Toyota > Corolla and Matrix with the 1ZZ-FE engine after receiving 26 > complaints alleging engine stall. Some of the stalls took place on > highways or intersections -- a situation that could pose a safety > hazard. NHTSA has since received another 30 complaints on the issue > > From The Detroit News: > http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100317/AUTO01/3170441/1148/auto01/Toyota-weighs-Corolla-engine-stalling-fix#ixzz0iUoegh1A - BFD. I used to drive a Ford. Stalling was a way of life, particularly in the winter. There were 26 complaints? Hell, my Ford would stall 26 times in a week.
From: ransley on 23 Mar 2010 08:00 On Mar 17, 10:40 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > Last November, NHTSA opened an investigation into the 2006 Toyota > Corolla and Matrix with the 1ZZ-FE engine after receiving 26 > complaints alleging engine stall. Some of the stalls took place on > highways or intersections -- a situation that could pose a safety > hazard. NHTSA has since received another 30 complaints on the issue > > From The Detroit News:http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100317/AUTO01/3170441/1148/auto0... 26 that could have been low on gas
From: C. E. White on 23 Mar 2010 09:18
"ransley" <Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:94f64ccb-faae-4f30-a5b8-b5a3e83e17b4(a)d37g2000yqn.googlegroups.com... On Mar 17, 10:40 pm, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > Last November, NHTSA opened an investigation into the 2006 Toyota > > Corolla and Matrix with the 1ZZ-FE engine after receiving 26 > > complaints alleging engine stall. Some of the stalls took place on > > highways or intersections -- a situation that could pose a safety > > hazard. NHTSA has since received another 30 complaints on the > > issue > > > > From The Detroit > > News:http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20100317/AUTO01/3170441/1148/auto0... > 26 that could have been low on gas Toyota has identified an actual fault that could be causing the stalling, so it is not quite a non-issue. Apaprently you are most likely to have a problem if you have an automatic transmission. The ECM has a potential flaw that could cause something less than 1% to fail over a ten year period. Not a significant problem unless your happens to have one that fails. Even then it would not be much of a problem except the ECMs are damn expensive (>$500). 20 years ago this sort of stalling would have been a non-event or at least a cheap one. Now cars are so good, it does attract attention, and the fix is so expensive, that it might upset some owners. I think the best solution is for Toyota to extend the warranty on the ECM for 10 years and unlimited mileage (it already has a 8 year / 80,000 mile warranty). The additional cost to Toyota would be minimal since a large percentage of the eventual failed ECMs probably would occur during the original warranty period. Ed |