From: Wayne on

"ben91932" <benteaches(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 1, 12:40 am, john <johngd...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> Toyota Motor Corp. said Thursday about 270,000 cars sold worldwide --
> including luxury Lexus sedans -- have potentially faulty engines, the

Which is precisely why I own a Toyota.
The article quoted says that 90,000 cars were exported from Japan, not
with bad engines but a stalling problem.
I'd bet a months pay that Ford does 90,000 warantee repairs for
stalling a month, and that they have for years.
Toyota is pro-active on defects, which I much prefer to US mfgr's
attempts to ignore issues and hope for the best.
I dunno, John, but all your negative posts about these cars makes me
wonder if a Tundra poisoned your wife and raped your daughter or visa
versa...
Ben
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Exactly. I switched to Toyota after owning a Ford that stalled about 4
times per day, and Ford couldn't find the problem.


From: C. E. White on

"ben91932" <benteaches(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Toyota is pro-active on defects,

You certainly have a different vision of being pro-active. As far as I can
tell Toyota has mostly been pro-active when it comes to hiding defects.
Toyota has a long history of working very hard to cover up defects. They
have repeatedly screwed there Customers. Go read the history of the truck
ball joint problems, the rusty frames, the sludge prone engines, the
defective throttles, the rollover prone 4Runners with weak roofs, etc., etc.
In every case they did everything they could to avoid taking care of their
Customers. They repeatedly lied to NHTSA investigators, tried to deflect
responsibility for the probelms by blaming them on suppliers or Customers or
"horror" internet rumors." Any fair accounting would rank Toyota near the
bottom when it comes to Customer service. Just becase you had a good Toyota
doesn't mean they haven't built some real POS's. And just becasue they are
now being forced to own up to a few of the more obvious problems, doesn't
mean they have suddenly decided totake care of teir Customers. Come back in
ten years. If they truly have decided to forgo their past practies, then
maybe they deserve the praise you are heaping on them.

Ed

From: hls on

"C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
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> "ben91932" <benteaches(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> Toyota is pro-active on defects,
>
> You certainly have a different vision of being pro-active. > Ed

Clearly, I do have a different vision. I owned GM products for years.
Each of them had some shitto defect that GM dodged.
Toyota has not treated me that way at all.


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> "C. E. White" <cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote in message
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>> "ben91932" <benteaches(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
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>>> Toyota is pro-active on defects,
>>
>> You certainly have a different vision of being pro-active. > Ed
>
> Clearly, I do have a different vision. I owned GM products for years.
> Each of them had some shitto defect that GM dodged.
> Toyota has not treated me that way at all.

Hopefully our good fortune will continue.

Ed

From: ben91932 on
On Jul 3, 3:30 pm, "C. E. White" <cewhi...(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
> "ben91932" <benteac...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:9828270c-1d94-410f-b92e-3fce0106c562(a)v13g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Toyota is pro-active on defects,
>
> You certainly have a different vision of being pro-active. As far as I can
> tell Toyota has mostly been pro-active when it comes to hiding defects.

I am certain that Toyota has made mistakes, as have every mfgr.
The point is that from my experience they are much better than the
others.
Ben