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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 20 Sep 2008 14:13 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:05:33 -0500, dbu, wrote: > In article <cro9d4l4fklbq7899mg61t8bnk2v681g9j(a)4ax.com>, > Retired VIP <jackj.extradots.180(a)windstream.net> wrote: > >> Downloaded the headers overnight.....not a single thing about cars. > > Toyotas are pretty trouble free. I've had my 04 Sienna now since Sept > 03 and just oil changes, nothing else. I'll need to get some new tires > soon. Any suggestions? I have Dunlop now, pretty good riders and I'd > consider getting the same tires again. I put Hankook tires on the Supra. They were cheap and had a good tread design. http://www.bizrate.com/automotivetires/oid392379222.html I also have Hankook Winter i-Pike tires on the Mazda. $54 each. Not good in rain, but great in snow http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tiremodel=W409+Winter+i*Pike&tirebrand=Hankook Damn! I guess I got a good price on them! (185/65-14. The good things, at least for the Supra: handle well, ride well, and I wanted a quiet tire for when I have the roof off. The car had Dunlops when I bought it, and they were loud as hell! The first thing I noticed was how quiet the Hankooks were.
From: larry moe 'n curly on 20 Sep 2008 17:33 Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote: > I put Hankook tires on the Supra. They were cheap and had a good tread > design. > > http://www.bizrate.com/automotivetires/oid392379222.html > > I also have Hankook Winter i-Pike tires on the Mazda. $54 each. Not good > in rain, but great in snow > > http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tiremodel=W409+Winter+i*Pike&tirebrand=Hankook > > Damn! I guess I got a good price on them! (185/65-14). > > The good things, at least for the Supra: handle well, ride well, and I > wanted a quiet tire for when I have the roof off. The car had Dunlops when > I bought it, and they were loud as hell! The first thing I noticed was how > quiet the Hankooks were. I hope my new Hankook-made Pep Boys Futuras work out better than my 12- year-old Goodrich-made Futuras, one of which looked like this (20,000 miles): http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2873717294_0e1bc26e03_b.jpg Pep Boys replaced all four tires for $80 under the road hazard warranty, even though the others showed no tread separation. That's a big improvement for this store since five years ago, when their idiot manager told me that a peeling sidewall was OK because the rubber was coming off only from the outside of the tire.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 20 Sep 2008 20:53 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:33:09 -0700, larry moe 'n curly wrote: > > > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > >> I put Hankook tires on the Supra. They were cheap and had a good tread >> design. >> >> http://www.bizrate.com/automotivetires/oid392379222.html >> >> I also have Hankook Winter i-Pike tires on the Mazda. $54 each. Not good >> in rain, but great in snow >> >> http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tiremodel=W409+Winter+i*Pike&tirebrand=Hankook >> >> Damn! I guess I got a good price on them! (185/65-14). >> >> The good things, at least for the Supra: handle well, ride well, and I >> wanted a quiet tire for when I have the roof off. The car had Dunlops when >> I bought it, and they were loud as hell! The first thing I noticed was how >> quiet the Hankooks were. > > I hope my new Hankook-made Pep Boys Futuras work out better than my 12- > year-old Goodrich-made Futuras, one of which looked like this (20,000 > miles): > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2873717294_0e1bc26e03_b.jpg > > Pep Boys replaced all four tires for $80 under the road hazard > warranty, even though the others showed no tread separation. That's a > big improvement for this store since five years ago, when their idiot > manager told me that a peeling sidewall was OK because the rubber was > coming off only from the outside of the tire. WAIT!!! TWELVE YEARS OLD?!?!?!?! June 2, 2008 NHTSA Issues Consumer Advisory SRS efforts lead to NHTSA Consumer Advisory warning that aged tires, regardless of tread, are subject to greater stress increasing the likelihood of catastrophic failure. SRS has called on the agency to issue an advisory since 2004. “While this doesn't solve the tire aging problem, it is a significant step toward improving information available to consumers” said Sean Kane, president of SRS. As of June 2, 2008 SRS has documented 159 incidents in which tires older than six years experienced tread / belt separations—most resulting in loss-of-control crashes. These incidents were the cause of 128 fatalities and 168 injuries. We have also included an additional 10 cases involving tires older than five years at the time of failure (half of which were more than five-and-a-half years old at the time of failure). These 10 incidents account for an additional 14 fatalities and 24 injuries. This list represents incidents that SRS has identified primarily through a survey of litigation, which is one of the only publicly available sources of these incidents. Further, Kane's comments to NHTSA disclosed little-known warnings in the owner's manuals of German vehicles (i.e., Mercedes, BMW, Audi, VW) and Toyota that tires older than six years posed dangers. This information, combined with a number of other technical documents provide clear evidence that the tire and vehicle manufacturers are aware of, and likely in the possession of important data and testing upon which these obscure findings were based. However, none of this information was disclosed to NHTSA in response to its request for comments about tire aging. When does NHTSA recommend that tires should be replaced? While tire life will ultimately depend on the tires' service conditions and the environment in which they operate, there are some general guidelines. Some vehicle manufacturers recommend that tires be replaced every six years regardless of use. In addition, a number of tire manufacturers cite 10 years as the maximum service life for tires. Check the owner's manual for specific recommendations for your vehicle. Remember, it is always wise to err on the side of caution if you suspect your vehicle has tires that are over six years of age.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 20 Sep 2008 20:55 On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:15:06 -0500, dbu, wrote: > In article <pan.2008.09.20.18.13.57.771955(a)e86.GTS>, > Hachiroku ÃnÃ`ÃçÃN <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote: > >> On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 07:05:33 -0500, dbu, wrote: >> >> > In article <cro9d4l4fklbq7899mg61t8bnk2v681g9j(a)4ax.com>, >> > Retired VIP <jackj.extradots.180(a)windstream.net> wrote: >> > >> >> Downloaded the headers overnight.....not a single thing about cars. >> > >> > Toyotas are pretty trouble free. I've had my 04 Sienna now since Sept >> > 03 and just oil changes, nothing else. I'll need to get some new tires >> > soon. Any suggestions? I have Dunlop now, pretty good riders and I'd >> > consider getting the same tires again. >> >> I put Hankook tires on the Supra. They were cheap and had a good tread >> design. >> >> http://www.bizrate.com/automotivetires/oid392379222.html >> >> I also have Hankook Winter i-Pike tires on the Mazda. $54 each. Not good >> in rain, but great in snow >> >> http://www.1010tires.com/tire.asp?tiremodel=W409+Winter+i*Pike&tirebrand=Hanko >> ok >> >> Damn! I guess I got a good price on them! (185/65-14. >> >> The good things, at least for the Supra: handle well, ride well, and I >> wanted a quiet tire for when I have the roof off. The car had Dunlops when >> I bought it, and they were loud as hell! The first thing I noticed was how >> quiet the Hankooks were. > > How's the ride, I don't want to feel every crack in the road. It's pretty good if you follow the car maker's recommended tire pressures. Quite nice, actually. If you follow Barack Obama's tire pressure recommendadtions, the Winter i-Pike is a bit harsh. It also has a 50 PSI rating!!! (I only have mine ~44 PSI.) The K106s on the Supra have a rating of 45 PSI, and are fantastic at 40 PSI.
From: larry moe 'n curly on 23 Sep 2008 02:31
Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/(B wrote: > On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 14:33:09 -0700, larry moe 'n curly wrote: > > I put Hankook tires on the Supra. They were cheap and had a good tread > design. > > http://www.bizrate.com/automotivetires/oid392379222.html > > I also have Hankook Winter i-Pike tires on the Mazda. $54 each. Not good > in rain, but great in snow > > I hope my new Hankook-made Pep Boys Futuras work out better than my 12- > > year-old Goodrich-made Futuras, one of which looked like this (20,000 > > miles): > > > > http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3065/2873717294_0e1bc26e03_b.jpg > > > > Pep Boys replaced all four tires for $80 under the road hazard > > warranty, even though the others showed no tread separation. > WAIT!!! TWELVE YEARS OLD?!?!?!?! > > June 2, 2008 NHTSA Issues Consumer Advisory > > SRS efforts lead to NHTSA Consumer Advisory warning that aged tires, > regardless of tread, are subject to greater stress increasing the > likelihood of catastrophic failure. > As of June 2, 2008 SRS has documented 159 incidents in which tires older > than six years experienced tread / belt separations$B!=(Bmost resulting in > loss-of-control crashes. These incidents were the cause of 128 fatalities > and 168 injuries. Now, I won't have to worry about that for another five years, unless I ever need the 15-year-old full-size spare ( < 10 miles on it, frequently glopped with preservative and kept in an airtight garbage bag). I think the tread separation was aggravated by rotating the tires crossways instead of just front-back, which is all I used to do. Mazda now recommends only front-back rotation. |