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From: Mike Hunter on 29 Jan 2010 11:09 I can only assume you are not familiar with the long standing NHTSA standing for the integrity of the door latch on vehicles? Does the term YABUT ring a bell? "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2010.01.29.13.52.48.914579(a)e86.GTS... > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:42:27 -0600, dbu'' wrote: > >> In article <WMOdnZA5dtqU9__WnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >> "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >> >>> "Hachiroku ハチロク" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>> news:pan.2010.01.27.18.20.10.668434(a)e86.GTS... >>> >>> > <YAWN> No other car maker ever had a throttle stick. >>> > Should we talk about automatic transmissions that AUTOMATICALLY >>> > shifted >>> > themselves into Reverse? and all the government required was a sticker >>> > on >>> > the dash? >>> >>> So what are you trying to say - a 2010 Toyta is almost as good as a 1978 >>> Ford? >>> >>> > >>> > What to see John go running for cover? >>> > >>> > CORVAIR!!! CORVAIR!!! CORVAIR!!! >>> >>> Or that a 2010 Toyota is marginally better than a 1960 Crvair? >>> >>> Weak. >>> >>> My opinion is that this whole sticky accelerator pedal is way overblown >>> if >>> the problem is really only what is being reported. But then that was >>> true >>> for the Ford transmission problem and especially true for the Corvair. >>> Corvairs were far safer than VW Bettles of that era, or most other >>> imported >>> cars, yet Ralph "The Trial Lawyers Best Friend" Nader picked on the >>> Corvair. >>> I wonder why...Oh wait, GM was a g juicy target for scum sucking trial >>> lawyers. Welcome to the club Toyota - you are now the big juicy target. >>> >>> If Toyota isn't paying you - they should. >>> >>> Ed >> >> Everytime some drunk smashes a Toyota into something it will be blamed on >> the >> pedal sticking. This will go on for years. Remember the Audi? > > > Remember the Toyota "door handle"? > > A woman was ejected from her boyfriend's Toyota pickup truck, claiming the > door handle was defective. She was suing Toyota for $4M. Toyota settled > out of court for $1.2M > > Problem was her boyfriend was drunk and ran the truck into the old style > post and wire guard rails before the door gave up and popped open. > > I wonder how many of these cases are just plain STUPIDITY? > >
From: Mike Hunter on 29 Jan 2010 11:09 YABUT "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2010.01.29.13.50.30.363034(a)e86.GTS... > On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 23:54:30 -0500, C. E. White wrote: > >> >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:pan.2010.01.27.18.20.10.668434(a)e86.GTS... >> >>> <YAWN> No other car maker ever had a throttle stick. >>> Should we talk about automatic transmissions that AUTOMATICALLY shifted >>> themselves into Reverse? and all the government required was a sticker >>> on >>> the dash? >> >> So what are you trying to say - a 2010 Toyta is almost as good as a 1978 >> Ford? >> >>> >>> What to see John go running for cover? >>> >>> CORVAIR!!! CORVAIR!!! CORVAIR!!! >> >> Or that a 2010 Toyota is marginally better than a 1960 Crvair? >> >> Weak. >> >> My opinion is that this whole sticky accelerator pedal is way overblown >> if >> the problem is really only what is being reported. But then that was true >> for the Ford transmission problem and especially true for the Corvair. >> Corvairs were far safer than VW Bettles of that era, or most other >> imported >> cars, yet Ralph "The Trial Lawyers Best Friend" Nader picked on the >> Corvair. >> I wonder why...Oh wait, GM was a g juicy target for scum sucking trial >> lawyers. Welcome to the club Toyota - you are now the big juicy target. >> >> If Toyota isn't paying you - they should. >> >> Ed > > After the number of trouble-free Toyotas I have owned, yeah, I still like > them. They were bound to have a problem. They will fix it, and it will be > a long time before they make another mistake. Not like GM, where there is > a recall issued on almost every new model, and quite a few of them severe. > > People still cheer GM, even after a number of models had conditions where > they would catch fire. Same goes for Ford. > > All in all, in terms of numbers of safety recalls, I'll still roll the > dice with Toyota before GM. > >
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 29 Jan 2010 12:49 On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:09:30 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > YABUT Sad thing is I would be driving an HHR instead of a Scion if they HAD HAD THE ONE I WANTED SOMEWHERE WITHIN 3000 MILES!!!! I wanted the 172HP HO with the Getrag 5 speed. Not to be found. Except for ONE in Colorado. Ford Flex looks pretty cool, but a $28,000 staring price is a bit steep...
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 29 Jan 2010 12:50 On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:09:00 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > I can only assume you are not familiar with the long standing NHTSA > standing for the integrity of the door latch on vehicles? Does that mean it has to stay closed after being battered into the guard rails for almost 1/8 mile? > > Does the term YABUT ring a bell? YABUT > > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2010.01.29.13.52.48.914579(a)e86.GTS... >> On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:42:27 -0600, dbu'' wrote: >> >>> In article <WMOdnZA5dtqU9__WnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d(a)earthlink.com>, >>> "C. E. White" <cewhite3remove(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Hachiroku ãããã¯" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >>>> news:pan.2010.01.27.18.20.10.668434(a)e86.GTS... >>>> >>>> > <YAWN> No other car maker ever had a throttle stick. Should we talk >>>> > about automatic transmissions that AUTOMATICALLY shifted >>>> > themselves into Reverse? and all the government required was a >>>> > sticker on >>>> > the dash? >>>> >>>> So what are you trying to say - a 2010 Toyta is almost as good as a >>>> 1978 Ford? >>>> >>>> >>>> > What to see John go running for cover? >>>> > >>>> > CORVAIR!!! CORVAIR!!! CORVAIR!!! >>>> >>>> Or that a 2010 Toyota is marginally better than a 1960 Crvair? >>>> >>>> Weak. >>>> >>>> My opinion is that this whole sticky accelerator pedal is way >>>> overblown if >>>> the problem is really only what is being reported. But then that was >>>> true >>>> for the Ford transmission problem and especially true for the Corvair. >>>> Corvairs were far safer than VW Bettles of that era, or most other >>>> imported >>>> cars, yet Ralph "The Trial Lawyers Best Friend" Nader picked on the >>>> Corvair. >>>> I wonder why...Oh wait, GM was a g juicy target for scum sucking trial >>>> lawyers. Welcome to the club Toyota - you are now the big juicy >>>> target. >>>> >>>> If Toyota isn't paying you - they should. >>>> >>>> Ed >>> >>> Everytime some drunk smashes a Toyota into something it will be blamed >>> on the >>> pedal sticking. This will go on for years. Remember the Audi? >> >> >> Remember the Toyota "door handle"? >> >> A woman was ejected from her boyfriend's Toyota pickup truck, claiming >> the door handle was defective. She was suing Toyota for $4M. Toyota >> settled out of court for $1.2M >> >> Problem was her boyfriend was drunk and ran the truck into the old style >> post and wire guard rails before the door gave up and popped open. >> >> I wonder how many of these cases are just plain STUPIDITY? >> >> >>
From: Mike Hunter on 30 Jan 2010 13:20
Who in the hell would compare a HHR, Scion and a Flex? One is a compact, one a subcompact and the other a full size vehicle. "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:pan.2010.01.29.17.49.25.762880(a)e86.GTS... > On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:09:30 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > >> YABUT > > Sad thing is I would be driving an HHR instead of a Scion if they HAD HAD > THE ONE I WANTED SOMEWHERE WITHIN 3000 MILES!!!! > > I wanted the 172HP HO with the Getrag 5 speed. Not to be found. Except for > ONE in Colorado. > > Ford Flex looks pretty cool, but a $28,000 staring price is a bit steep... > > > |