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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 9 Dec 2009 21:11
On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:01:03 -0600, Ray O wrote:

>> How do you eliminate this silly thing entirely? Just replace valve stems
>> with normal ones?
>>
> I usually recommend inflating the tires to 5 or 6 PSI above the values
> indicated on the door frame to improve tread life.

I usually recommend running them up to the rating on the sidewall!

I did this with my '80 Corolla SR5's Bridgestones and got 125,000 miles on
them!

I always go to the sidewall rating, and typically get 70,000 miles or more
out of my tires.

I didn't replaced the Dunlops on the '85 GTS until 1991!



From: in2dadark on 9 Dec 2009 22:38
On Dec 9, 1:01 am, "Ray O" <rokig...(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com>
wrote:
> "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> > "Ray O" <rokig...(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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> >> "SMS" <scharf.ste...(a)geemail.com> wrote in message
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> >>> My TPMS warning light came on this morning. It also happened to be one
> >>> the rare sub-freezing days we get in Silicon Valley. The tires are fine.
>
> >>> Is it best to ignore the light, or add air to compensate for the lower
> >>> pressure caused by the cold weather?
>
> >> I would check all of the tires, including the spare, with a tire pressure
> >> gauge and inflate to at least the pressures indicated in the owner's
> >> manual and on the driver's door or glove box door.
> >> --
>
> >> Ray O
>
> > How do you eliminate this silly thing entirely? Just replace valve stems
> > with normal ones?
>
> I usually recommend inflating the tires to 5 or 6 PSI above the values
> indicated on the door frame to improve tread life.  That would also solve
> the warning light coming on at high altitudes or low temps.
>
> You could try replacing the valve stems with normal ones but you might get a
> warning light because the ECM can't find the sensor.
> --
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> Ray O
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Tells me I'm right in hanging on to my 'old technology' 2001...Too
many sensors and add ons. Not necessary..
From: in2dadark on 9 Dec 2009 22:40
On Dec 9, 12:34 pm, "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net>
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> "Ray O" <rokig...(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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> > "JoeSpareBedroom" <newstr...(a)frontiernet.net> wrote in message
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> >> I get the feeling there are some Toyota designers who've never driven on
> >> a two-lane road covered in snow to the point where it's almost impossible
> >> to figure out where the edges are. Then, an 18-wheeler comes along in the
> >> other direction, and the driver is also pondering his mortality.
>
> >> Just what I want in that situation: A stupid light on the dash, telling
> >> me my tires are down a couple of pounds.
>
> > While Toyota was an early implementer of the indirect tire pressure
> > monitoring system, all new passenger cars will eventually, if they have
> > not already, have a direct tire pressure monitoring system to comply with
> > the law passed around 2001.
> > --
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> > Ray O
> > (correct punctuation to reply)
>
> This is another good reason to never let my 04 Tacoma die. Toyota forgot to
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i agree. Progress in not a good thing in this case. Let the test
dummies figure it out and pay dearly for it in the process..
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 9 Dec 2009 23:27
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.12.10.02.11.38.656015(a)e86.GTS...
> On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:01:03 -0600, Ray O wrote:
>
>>> How do you eliminate this silly thing entirely? Just replace valve stems
>>> with normal ones?
>>>
>> I usually recommend inflating the tires to 5 or 6 PSI above the values
>> indicated on the door frame to improve tread life.
>
> I usually recommend running them up to the rating on the sidewall!
>
> I did this with my '80 Corolla SR5's Bridgestones and got 125,000 miles on
> them!
>
> I always go to the sidewall rating, and typically get 70,000 miles or more
> out of my tires.
>
> I didn't replaced the Dunlops on the '85 GTS until 1991!


I get the best snow performance with my tires at around 34 psi. If I recall,
the sidewall max rating is close to 50 psi. You think I should pump them to
the higher number?


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 9 Dec 2009 23:48
On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:27:21 -0500, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
> news:pan.2009.12.10.02.11.38.656015(a)e86.GTS...
>> On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 00:01:03 -0600, Ray O wrote:
>>
>>>> How do you eliminate this silly thing entirely? Just replace valve
>>>> stems with normal ones?
>>>>
>>> I usually recommend inflating the tires to 5 or 6 PSI above the values
>>> indicated on the door frame to improve tread life.
>>
>> I usually recommend running them up to the rating on the sidewall!
>>
>> I did this with my '80 Corolla SR5's Bridgestones and got 125,000 miles
>> on them!
>>
>> I always go to the sidewall rating, and typically get 70,000 miles or
>> more out of my tires.
>>
>> I didn't replaced the Dunlops on the '85 GTS until 1991!
>
>
> I get the best snow performance with my tires at around 34 psi. If I
> recall, the sidewall max rating is close to 50 psi. You think I should
> pump them to the higher number?

Not in snow. For a reason unkonwn to me, all season radials seem to work
better at lower tire pressures than higher. I had read this somewhere (Car
and Driver, perhaps?) a long time ago and always let a little air out in
the wintertime.

Maybe it has to do with more tread digging in to the snow? Maybe someone
here knows why that is.

I would pump them up in the summer, if they are all season tires. Some
people don't like the ride at higher pressures. In the Scion I feel every
pebble.



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