From: ACAR on
On Jan 29, 11:16 am, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote:
> In my opinion you are on to something.   I believe the answer to Toyotas
> problem will be found in the logarithms of the process controller, rather
> than a mechanical problem, since it is found on such a diverse number of
> dissimilar models built all around the world.
>

It could be that mechanical issues are masking an underlying process
controller problem. I suspect the algorithm is OK as written but
something in the assembly process is putting a very small number of
these controllers off. Could be something as simple as a bent
connector pin.
We'll see what they come up with. Then what they'll do to improve
their QC process.
From: Mike Hunter on
So far according to published reports, they are built or assembled in the
US, Canada, China and Europe. Do a search, WBMA


"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
news:hrudnVrZoopBtfnWnZ2dnUVZ_uRi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> In my opinion you are on to something. I believe the answer to Toyotas
>> problem will be found in the logarithms of the process controller,
>
> I doubt it. Logarithms are well-know mathematical functions. In fact,
> simple calculators and your laptop use logarithms for multiplication.
>
>> rather than a mechanical problem, since it is found on such a diverse
>> number of dissimilar models built all around the world.
>
> Really? In vehicles built in what countries has the problem occurred?
>
> Jeff
>
>> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
>> news:s-adnUAAJILioP_WnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>> "john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:5c581e0b-de16-4265-950e-4c3235871e23(a)k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>> Some kind of specification that is. Let's see if they'll try to blame
>>> it on CTS.
>>> *********
>>> It will be interesting to see. We have had people post here that the
>>> pedals
>>> did not actually stick...if this is the case, the problem (if there
>>> really is one)
>>> has to be the interface or electronic control unit, not any mechanical
>>> device.
>>>
>>> Time will tell
>>

From: Mike Hunter on
What are you smoking? LOL

"dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
news:x7OdnVSspcxUCfnWnZ2dnUVZ_vdi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
> Mike Hunter wrote:
>> So far according to published reports, they are built or assembled in the
>> US, Canada, China and Europe. Do a search, WBMA
>
> That's in many places, but not all around the world.
>
> Jeff
>
>>
>> "dr_jeff" <utz(a)msu.edu> wrote in message
>> news:hrudnVrZoopBtfnWnZ2dnUVZ_uRi4p2d(a)giganews.com...
>>> Mike Hunter wrote:
>>>> In my opinion you are on to something. I believe the answer to
>>>> Toyotas problem will be found in the logarithms of the process
>>>> controller,
>>> I doubt it. Logarithms are well-know mathematical functions. In fact,
>>> simple calculators and your laptop use logarithms for multiplication.
>>>
>>>> rather than a mechanical problem, since it is found on such a diverse
>>>> number of dissimilar models built all around the world.
>>> Really? In vehicles built in what countries has the problem occurred?
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>> "hls" <hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message
>>>> news:s-adnUAAJILioP_WnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d(a)giganews.com...
>>>>> "john" <johngdole(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:5c581e0b-de16-4265-950e-4c3235871e23(a)k18g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>>>>> Some kind of specification that is. Let's see if they'll try to blame
>>>>> it on CTS.
>>>>> *********
>>>>> It will be interesting to see. We have had people post here that the
>>>>> pedals
>>>>> did not actually stick...if this is the case, the problem (if there
>>>>> really is one)
>>>>> has to be the interface or electronic control unit, not any mechanical
>>>>> device.
>>>>>
>>>>> Time will tell
>>