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From: Canuck57 on 1 Feb 2010 20:16 On 01/02/2010 12:20 PM, hls wrote: > > "raamman" <raamman(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:a72f462e-9d67-4152-a212- > > the suplier very firmly stated they made the pedal exactly to > specification; I have no doubt that this is true > > ******** > I have some doubts it is true.. If they had made it exactly to spec, > then all of them - if they were faulty - should be expected to fail. > That has not been the case. > > And if some of the earlier reports are true, the only pedals involved > come from the ONE manufacturer... > > What does that suggest to you? I am reading the same. Seems like the ones from the US company made in a CAW plant are the culpret. Other plants apparently make the same design without issue in Japan.
From: Canuck57 on 1 Feb 2010 20:17 Ditto GM and Ford, do I hear more? On 01/02/2010 4:15 PM, Mike Hunter wrote: > If that were true, why did Toyota continue to accept parts from that > manufacture for all these years? > > Surely Toyota would have examined the parts to make sure they met Toyotas > design criteria, when they stated to get warranty claims about uncontrolled > acceleration, when the problem first appeared on Toyotas way back in 2004? > > > "hls"<hls(a)nospam.nix> wrote in message > news:k9KdnQRSZLQEtPrWnZ2dnUVZ_uCdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> >> "raamman"<raamman(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> news:a72f462e-9d67-4152-a212- >> >> the suplier very firmly stated they made the pedal exactly to >> specification; I have no doubt that this is true >> >> ******** >> I have some doubts it is true.. If they had made it exactly to spec, >> then all of them - if they were faulty - should be expected to fail. >> That has not been the case. >> >> And if some of the earlier reports are true, the only pedals involved >> come from the ONE manufacturer... >> >> What does that suggest to you? > >
From: Dave on 1 Feb 2010 21:41 "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:9%K9n.86634$1m3.6759(a)newsfe11.iad... > On 01/02/2010 4:50 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >> In article<7AN6LJD740210.3274305556(a)reece.net.au>, >> Georgie<remailer(a)reece.net.au> wrote: >> >>> 3. Use high quality, permanently lubricated ball bearings in the >>> pedal assembly for lifetime frictionless operation. >> >> And my guess is we'll find that Toyota told the supplier to "make it >> cheaper"--and the supplier found a Chinese bearing, probably pot metal >> that saved them three cents per assembly, that is the crux of this whole >> matter. > > Looks like GM & Ford have also used these parts and only GM isn't actively > recalling them. > > As someone else said, GM didn't make the Vibe.... Well GM didn't make a > lot of their stuff including the Aveo. > > Looks like Ford and Toyota are going to make good. To make a mistake is > one thing, to fix it shows integrity. If your mother had had any integrity, she'd have flushed you years ago.
From: Canuck57 on 1 Feb 2010 22:03 On 01/02/2010 7:41 PM, Dave wrote: > > "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message > news:9%K9n.86634$1m3.6759(a)newsfe11.iad... >> On 01/02/2010 4:50 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >>> In article<7AN6LJD740210.3274305556(a)reece.net.au>, >>> Georgie<remailer(a)reece.net.au> wrote: >>> >>>> 3. Use high quality, permanently lubricated ball bearings in the >>>> pedal assembly for lifetime frictionless operation. >>> >>> And my guess is we'll find that Toyota told the supplier to "make it >>> cheaper"--and the supplier found a Chinese bearing, probably pot metal >>> that saved them three cents per assembly, that is the crux of this whole >>> matter. >> >> Looks like GM & Ford have also used these parts and only GM isn't >> actively recalling them. >> >> As someone else said, GM didn't make the Vibe.... Well GM didn't make >> a lot of their stuff including the Aveo. >> >> Looks like Ford and Toyota are going to make good. To make a mistake >> is one thing, to fix it shows integrity. > > If your mother had had any integrity, she'd have flushed you years ago. Nothing more intelligent to say? Or are you a corrupt greedy GM leach a flopping on hot sand?
From: Dave on 1 Feb 2010 22:22
"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:4CM9n.11839$3n2.11119(a)newsfe01.iad... > On 01/02/2010 7:41 PM, Dave wrote: >> >> "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message >> news:9%K9n.86634$1m3.6759(a)newsfe11.iad... >>> On 01/02/2010 4:50 AM, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: >>>> In article<7AN6LJD740210.3274305556(a)reece.net.au>, >>>> Georgie<remailer(a)reece.net.au> wrote: >>>> >>>>> 3. Use high quality, permanently lubricated ball bearings in the >>>>> pedal assembly for lifetime frictionless operation. >>>> >>>> And my guess is we'll find that Toyota told the supplier to "make it >>>> cheaper"--and the supplier found a Chinese bearing, probably pot metal >>>> that saved them three cents per assembly, that is the crux of this >>>> whole >>>> matter. >>> >>> Looks like GM & Ford have also used these parts and only GM isn't >>> actively recalling them. >>> >>> As someone else said, GM didn't make the Vibe.... Well GM didn't make >>> a lot of their stuff including the Aveo. >>> >>> Looks like Ford and Toyota are going to make good. To make a mistake >>> is one thing, to fix it shows integrity. >> >> If your mother had had any integrity, she'd have flushed you years ago. > > Nothing more intelligent to say? Or are you a corrupt greedy GM leach a > flopping on hot sand? Just telling the truth. Something you seldom do. |