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From: Mike Hunter on 29 Jan 2010 15:53 However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem with unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order. Perhaps you think Toyota is mistaken? "Scott" <scott(a)nowhere.com> wrote in message news:hjveek$1j5m$1(a)adenine.netfront.net... > > "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message > news:pan.2010.01.29.13.58.55.417206(a)e86.GTS... >>A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a >> laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know, >> the big industrial ones... >> >> She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car >> accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines. >> >> She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to >> a 'sticking accelerator'. >> >> Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast >> enough to crash through a brick wall? >> >> If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving. >> >> I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong >> Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator. >> I wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and >> blamed it on a sticking accelerator? > > > Right, like my dad always said, you CAIN'T FIX STUPID!!! > > People been crashing into things with cars for 80 years, and trying to > blame > everybody but themselves. Too bad they are trying to blame Toyota now. > > > > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: news(a)netfront.net ---
From: Steve on 29 Jan 2010 16:14 Don Stauffer wrote: > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: >> A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a >> laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know, >> the big industrial ones... >> >> She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car >> accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines. >> She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to >> a 'sticking accelerator'. >> >> Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast >> enough to crash through a brick wall? >> > > I noticed this too. Sticking throttle would not account for > acceleration. Maintaining speed when you slow down, sure, but not rapid > unintended acceleration. The best I can tell, the root of the problem has never been "sticking" accelerators. Its erroneous interpretation of the accelerator pedal position, which can either act like the pedal is "stuck" or it can act like you're pressing the pedal when you actually are not. Some of the cases have been unintentional transition to wide-open throttle, which as I understand it overrides the ability to shift into neutral on some models. Combine that with having to hold down the "start" button for 4 seconds to actually shut down the engine when the vehicle is in gear, and you have the current messy situation.
From: ACAR on 29 Jan 2010 16:49 On Jan 29, 3:53 pm, "Mike Hunter" <Mikehunt2(a)lycos,com> wrote: > However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem with > unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order. Perhaps you > think Toyota is mistaken? > No, I think Toyota was given no choice in the matter by the US Govt.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 29 Jan 2010 12:24 On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 15:53:15 -0500, Mike Hunter wrote: > > However in this instance EVEN Toyota is saying they have a problem with > unintended acceleration, hence the recall and stop sell order. Perhaps > you think Toyota is mistaken? It's not 'unintended acceleration', it's a condition where the throttle does not return to idle. Slight difference. You have to have the car up to speed and then it sticks there. If she was going fast enough entering a parking space to crash through a wall, she should have taken the bus in the first place.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 29 Jan 2010 12:25
On Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:10:20 -0800, Sir F. A. Rien wrote: > Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> found these unused words: > >>A 68 year old woman ran her car through a brick and steel wall, into a >>laundromat, and damaged the wall and 5 or 6 washing machines, you know, >>the big industrial ones... >> >>She was sneaking up on a parking space when all of a sudden the car >>accelerated and crashed through the wall and the washing machines. >> >>She was driving a Camry. The accident has been attributed by the media to >>a 'sticking accelerator'. >> >>Um, how FAST are you driving when pulling into a parking space? Fast >>enough to crash through a brick wall? >> >>If you are, you probably shouldn't be driving. >> >>I'm willing to bet this is just a good old fashioned case of "Wrong >>Pedal", but since it's a Camry it must be the sticking accelerator. I >>wonder how many other people have gotten themselves into trouble and >>blamed it on a sticking accelerator? >> >>Gee...I have to go to Vermont next week. When I get pulled over at 90 in >>my Scion, can I tell the cop it was my "sticking accelerator"? >> > Of course you can, and the trolls "john" and "Tom" will back you up with > the full weight of Ford and GM. Why thank you, Sir! Can I get your support, too? ;) |