From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 00:22:19 -0500, Jane Galt wrote:

> =?iso-2022-jp?q?Hachiroku_=1B$B%O%A%m%=2F=1B=28B?= <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote
> :
> :
>> On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:17:01 -0500, Jane Galt wrote:
>>
>>>> Keep in mind that the head units that are XM Ready still need an XM
>>>> receiver -- I'd like to take a moment to mention that XM and Sirius
> have
>>>> merged, and I use XM to mean either of them -- to get the signal. I
>>>> can't stress how much I enjoyed mine while I had it (the car it was
>>>> installed in was stolen, and I did not replace it). I especially liked
>>>> it because where I live in the Black Hole of radio markets caused me
>>>> to costantly be tuning the radio trying to find something that came in
>>>> better than the static. We get three things on radio here, Mexicans,
>>>> Religion, and static.
>>>
>>> I've been looking at an XM forum and they nix the HD FM part. Seems the
> HD
>>> and HD surround sound standard never caught on, and likely wont.
>>
>> XM is already a digital signal, and is already pretty good.
>
> Nobody has gotten surround sound right yet.
>
>> One of my clients is a radio station in NH that runs multiple stations
>> from file servers. We were repairing one of the servers and the engineer
>> gave me a demonstration of HD. They have an AM radio station that runs
>> Rush Limbaugh in the afternoon, and port the signal over to a low power
> FM
>> station as well. So you get talk radio with FM quality.
>
> Kool. I'm not a Rush fan, but close - Glenn Beck.

Rush isn't on XM, but Beck is. They tried not running his program a
couple times...haven't done it since...

>
>> They have a monitor in the server room and he switched from broadcast AM
>> to HD AM. WOW! Then he swtiched to an AM Stereo country station they
>> run. WOW!!! Unbelieveable sound.
>
> But I understand the HD standard is dying out, from the guys at the XM
> forum.

I wouldn't count on it. A lot of stations have paid a lot of money to
implement HD.

I'd watch for another mandate from Gevernment; HD doesn't take up as much
bandwidth as FM, so there would be more airspace to sell.

>
>> Then he put on the FM side of the country station, which sounded about
>> as good as the AM HD station. Then he put on the FM HD version of the
>> station. Not really a noticeable difference.
>
> But is anyone actually broadcasting in it?

Around here there are a few. The ones that count, anyway.

>
>> For broadcast AM HD makes a tremendous difference, not so much with FM
>> (and we were sitting under the toweer, so we had a good signal). Since
>> XM is digital already, HD isn't a big consideration. Now, HD Surround
>> would probably be pretty good, but you would need a sound system on par
>> with
> the
>> Bose system used in the Corvette to be noticable. It can be done, but
>> how much do you want to spend on a sound system
>
> Exactly. But remember, the first pre-production color TV's were $30k, I
> think.
>
> Hey the chinese can do anything cheap. LOL
>
>> (HINT: A friend of mine with a
>> Prism installed a kick-a$$ sound system, and when the car got stolen the
>> insurance co said, We'll pay $11,500 for the stero, but you're taking a
>> loss on the car...)
>
> LOL

(he didn't think so...)


From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:30:53 -0400, ---MIKE--- wrote:

> I have an HD tuner in my home. I tune in to 107.9 (Vermont public radio)
> and get an excellent signal even though I am 70 miles from the
> transmitter. I use it for the classical music network (sub 2) which I
> can't get on regular FM. I added the Sirius receiver because I was not
> always happy with VPR's programming.

Would ATC be the culprit?

>
>
> ---MIKE---
>>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
> >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')