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From: Jeff Strickland on 28 Mar 2010 13:44 "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message news:Xns9D48AD0FCC932JaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote : > >> >> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >> news:Xns9D47C1A62BE6DJaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >>> Now that we got this 2002 Corolla, the stock CD player-receiver is >>> pretty shot ( wont even power-off ), so we're interested in something a >>> little better. >>> >>> I see now, that they have XM receivers that now feature hd sound ( >>> digital ) >>> and most of the big city local FM stations now broadcast in this HD. Is >>> it doing surround sound yet, or havent they worked that part out yet? >>> >>> Instead of getting one with a DVD just to play several gigs of mp3 with >>> ( super expensive, and we're not interested in movies, just putting >>> about 5GB >>> of MP3 music in the car to play ), I see that some receivers now have >>> USB jacks that can take a USB carrier with a SD card. Is that how they >>> can play >>> many gigs of MP3's? >>> >>> Gosh I love technology. :) >>> >>> >>> >> >> For soembody that loves technology, you ask a lot of questions about it. >> >> I had XM radio that I really enjoyed, but the cost was about $10 per >> month so my wife didn't see the value in it. It has shortcomings though. >> The satellites can be blocked by trees and overhead obstructions. If you >> spend time in the downtown areas of large cities, the buildings can >> block the signals. If you are stopped at a traffic light to the freeway >> and are under the overpass at the time, the radio will go away until the >> light turns green. The upside is that you can put on a station in New >> York and drive to Los Angeles and listen to the same station the entire >> trip. There are stations that do Books On Tape, that are cool for long >> drives. I'm not sure how you would deal with listening to a book on the >> way to work, then pick up where yo uleft off on the way home, but I'm >> sure they have thought about that. I live in a radio market fringe area >> where I can drive a few miles in pretty much any direction and loose >> more than half of the stations I can get in my driveway, so XM solves >> lots of problems for me. >> >> HD is okay, I suppose. I don't have it. But it requires a strong signal, >> and my living in the great outback of radio market areas renders the >> technology useless to me because I have such a week signal in the first >> place. >> >> Why don't you get yourself a 32G iPod and a radio with an interface to >> plug it into? You could damn near fit the Library of Congress on it and >> never hear the same song twice. Okay, that's an exageration, but you get >> the point. >> >> Keep in mind that you're putting a system into a Corolla that could >> exceed the value of the Corolla. Okay, yet another exageration ... > > LOL > > Hey come on, it's a 2002 Corolla, not the old 93. > > > Ouch! (I have a '94 BMW ... ) I don't know what the systems cost that have an HDD built in (whether it's an actual HDD or a memory card doesn't matter here), but I think an iPod Classic with 32G would hold more music than you could listen to. I just reappropriated the 4G Nano from my wife, and it has enough music in it to go for almost 3 days. Keep in mind that the head units that are XM Ready still need an XM receiver -- I'd like to take a moment to mention that XM and Sirius have merged, and I use XM to mean either of them -- to get the signal. I can't stress how much I enjoyed mine while I had it (the car it was installed in was stolen, and I did not replace it). I especially liked it because where I live in the Black Hole of radio markets caused me to costantly be tuning the radio trying to find something that came in better than the static. We get three things on radio here, Mexicans, Religion, and static.
From: ---MIKE--- on 28 Mar 2010 14:01 Jeff Strickland wrote: >I'd like to take a moment to mention that > XM and Sirius have merged, and I use > XM to mean either of them -- to get the > signal. That's not exactly true. I have XM in my car. I bought a Sirius receiver for my home. I had to set up a completely new account with sirius. I thought I could "piggy back" my home receiver at a reduced rate. No such luck. They have the same programming but channel numbers are different. XM has one stationary satellite and sirius has three satellites in a slightly eliptical pattern. ---MIKE--- >>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')
From: Jane Galt on 28 Mar 2010 17:17 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote : > > "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message > news:Xns9D48AD0FCC932JaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote : >> >>> >>> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >>> news:Xns9D47C1A62BE6DJaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >>>> Now that we got this 2002 Corolla, the stock CD player-receiver is >>>> pretty shot ( wont even power-off ), so we're interested in something >>>> a little better. >>>> >>>> I see now, that they have XM receivers that now feature hd sound ( >>>> digital ) >>>> and most of the big city local FM stations now broadcast in this HD. >>>> Is it doing surround sound yet, or havent they worked that part out >>>> yet? >>>> >>>> Instead of getting one with a DVD just to play several gigs of mp3 >>>> with ( super expensive, and we're not interested in movies, just >>>> putting about 5GB >>>> of MP3 music in the car to play ), I see that some receivers now have >>>> USB jacks that can take a USB carrier with a SD card. Is that how >>>> they can play >>>> many gigs of MP3's? >>>> >>>> Gosh I love technology. :) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> For soembody that loves technology, you ask a lot of questions about >>> it. >>> >>> I had XM radio that I really enjoyed, but the cost was about $10 per >>> month so my wife didn't see the value in it. It has shortcomings >>> though. The satellites can be blocked by trees and overhead >>> obstructions. If you spend time in the downtown areas of large cities, >>> the buildings can block the signals. If you are stopped at a traffic >>> light to the freeway and are under the overpass at the time, the radio >>> will go away until the light turns green. The upside is that you can >>> put on a station in New York and drive to Los Angeles and listen to >>> the same station the entire trip. There are stations that do Books On >>> Tape, that are cool for long drives. I'm not sure how you would deal >>> with listening to a book on the way to work, then pick up where yo >>> uleft off on the way home, but I'm sure they have thought about that. >>> I live in a radio market fringe area where I can drive a few miles in >>> pretty much any direction and loose more than half of the stations I >>> can get in my driveway, so XM solves lots of problems for me. >>> >>> HD is okay, I suppose. I don't have it. But it requires a strong >>> signal, and my living in the great outback of radio market areas >>> renders the technology useless to me because I have such a week signal >>> in the first place. >>> >>> Why don't you get yourself a 32G iPod and a radio with an interface to >>> plug it into? You could damn near fit the Library of Congress on it >>> and never hear the same song twice. Okay, that's an exageration, but >>> you get the point. >>> >>> Keep in mind that you're putting a system into a Corolla that could >>> exceed the value of the Corolla. Okay, yet another exageration ... >> >> LOL >> >> Hey come on, it's a 2002 Corolla, not the old 93. >> >> >> > > Ouch! (I have a '94 BMW ... ) > > I don't know what the systems cost that have an HDD built in (whether > it's an actual HDD or a memory card doesn't matter here), but I think an > iPod Classic with 32G would hold more music than you could listen to. I > just reappropriated the 4G Nano from my wife, and it has enough music in > it to go for almost 3 days. > > Keep in mind that the head units that are XM Ready still need an XM > receiver -- I'd like to take a moment to mention that XM and Sirius have > merged, and I use XM to mean either of them -- to get the signal. I > can't stress how much I enjoyed mine while I had it (the car it was > installed in was stolen, and I did not replace it). I especially liked > it because where I live in the Black Hole of radio markets caused me to > costantly be tuning the radio trying to find something that came in > better than the static. We get three things on radio here, Mexicans, > Religion, and static. I've been looking at an XM forum and they nix the HD FM part. Seems the HD and HD surround sound standard never caught on, and likely wont. -- Jane Galt "There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide." -- Ayn Rand
From: Jeff Strickland on 28 Mar 2010 18:56 "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message news:Xns9D499B7B14E3JaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote : > >> >> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >> news:Xns9D48AD0FCC932JaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote : >>> >>>> >>>> "Jane Galt" <Jane_G(a)gulch.xyz> wrote in message >>>> news:Xns9D47C1A62BE6DJaneGgulchxyz(a)216.196.97.142... >>>>> Now that we got this 2002 Corolla, the stock CD player-receiver is >>>>> pretty shot ( wont even power-off ), so we're interested in something >>>>> a little better. >>>>> >>>>> I see now, that they have XM receivers that now feature hd sound ( >>>>> digital ) >>>>> and most of the big city local FM stations now broadcast in this HD. >>>>> Is it doing surround sound yet, or havent they worked that part out >>>>> yet? >>>>> >>>>> Instead of getting one with a DVD just to play several gigs of mp3 >>>>> with ( super expensive, and we're not interested in movies, just >>>>> putting about 5GB >>>>> of MP3 music in the car to play ), I see that some receivers now have >>>>> USB jacks that can take a USB carrier with a SD card. Is that how >>>>> they can play >>>>> many gigs of MP3's? >>>>> >>>>> Gosh I love technology. :) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> For soembody that loves technology, you ask a lot of questions about >>>> it. >>>> >>>> I had XM radio that I really enjoyed, but the cost was about $10 per >>>> month so my wife didn't see the value in it. It has shortcomings >>>> though. The satellites can be blocked by trees and overhead >>>> obstructions. If you spend time in the downtown areas of large cities, >>>> the buildings can block the signals. If you are stopped at a traffic >>>> light to the freeway and are under the overpass at the time, the radio >>>> will go away until the light turns green. The upside is that you can >>>> put on a station in New York and drive to Los Angeles and listen to >>>> the same station the entire trip. There are stations that do Books On >>>> Tape, that are cool for long drives. I'm not sure how you would deal >>>> with listening to a book on the way to work, then pick up where yo >>>> uleft off on the way home, but I'm sure they have thought about that. >>>> I live in a radio market fringe area where I can drive a few miles in >>>> pretty much any direction and loose more than half of the stations I >>>> can get in my driveway, so XM solves lots of problems for me. >>>> >>>> HD is okay, I suppose. I don't have it. But it requires a strong >>>> signal, and my living in the great outback of radio market areas >>>> renders the technology useless to me because I have such a week signal >>>> in the first place. >>>> >>>> Why don't you get yourself a 32G iPod and a radio with an interface to >>>> plug it into? You could damn near fit the Library of Congress on it >>>> and never hear the same song twice. Okay, that's an exageration, but >>>> you get the point. >>>> >>>> Keep in mind that you're putting a system into a Corolla that could >>>> exceed the value of the Corolla. Okay, yet another exageration ... >>> >>> LOL >>> >>> Hey come on, it's a 2002 Corolla, not the old 93. >>> >>> >>> >> >> Ouch! (I have a '94 BMW ... ) >> >> I don't know what the systems cost that have an HDD built in (whether >> it's an actual HDD or a memory card doesn't matter here), but I think an >> iPod Classic with 32G would hold more music than you could listen to. I >> just reappropriated the 4G Nano from my wife, and it has enough music in >> it to go for almost 3 days. >> >> Keep in mind that the head units that are XM Ready still need an XM >> receiver -- I'd like to take a moment to mention that XM and Sirius have >> merged, and I use XM to mean either of them -- to get the signal. I >> can't stress how much I enjoyed mine while I had it (the car it was >> installed in was stolen, and I did not replace it). I especially liked >> it because where I live in the Black Hole of radio markets caused me to >> costantly be tuning the radio trying to find something that came in >> better than the static. We get three things on radio here, Mexicans, >> Religion, and static. > > I've been looking at an XM forum and they nix the HD FM part. Seems the HD > and HD surround sound standard never caught on, and likely wont. > > > At least part of the reason is that HD requires a strong signal, so if you drive away from a major metropolitian area where the signals get weaker, or live in a minor metro area where the signal is weak already, then your HD experience will not be very good. And, if you live where there IS a strong signal, then your radio experience is satisfying even if you don't have HD. There is not alot of reason to go with HD.
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 28 Mar 2010 22:39
On Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:17:01 -0500, Jane Galt wrote: >> Keep in mind that the head units that are XM Ready still need an XM >> receiver -- I'd like to take a moment to mention that XM and Sirius have >> merged, and I use XM to mean either of them -- to get the signal. I >> can't stress how much I enjoyed mine while I had it (the car it was >> installed in was stolen, and I did not replace it). I especially liked >> it because where I live in the Black Hole of radio markets caused me to >> costantly be tuning the radio trying to find something that came in >> better than the static. We get three things on radio here, Mexicans, >> Religion, and static. > > I've been looking at an XM forum and they nix the HD FM part. Seems the HD > and HD surround sound standard never caught on, and likely wont. XM is already a digital signal, and is already pretty good. One of my clients is a radio station in NH that runs multiple stations from file servers. We were repairing one of the servers and the engineer gave me a demonstration of HD. They have an AM radio station that runs Rush Limbaugh in the afternoon, and port the signal over to a low power FM station as well. So you get talk radio with FM quality. They have a monitor in the server room and he switched from broadcast AM to HD AM. WOW! Then he swtiched to an AM Stereo country station they run. WOW!!! Unbelieveable sound. Then he put on the FM side of the country station, which sounded about as good as the AM HD station. Then he put on the FM HD version of the station. Not really a noticeable difference. For broadcast AM HD makes a tremendous difference, not so much with FM (and we were sitting under the toweer, so we had a good signal). Since XM is digital already, HD isn't a big consideration. Now, HD Surround would probably be pretty good, but you would need a sound system on par with the Bose system used in the Corvette to be noticable. It can be done, but how much do you want to spend on a sound system (HINT: A friend of mine with a Prism installed a kick-a$$ sound system, and when the car got stolen the insurance co said, We'll pay $11,500 for the stero, but you're taking a loss on the car...) |