From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:21:06 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio,
Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
writing:

>On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:20:53 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> >> <STRAWMAN ALERT>
>> >>>Only someone as dumb as you and Fred would do something that stupid.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >> No, that would be John McCain and Jan Brewer making the claims of
>> >> violence along the border, dumbass.
>>
>> His Strawman shoved where the sun doesn't shine, Hachiroku just
>> ignores the sharp pains and moves on to his next level of stupid.
>>
>> >>
>> >> So, do tell us, how far do they travel and in what jurisdiction would
>> >> they be less likely to attract attention.
>>
>> Well?
>>
>> >xplain how moving away from
>> >> a predominately hispanic area of the country where significant numbers
>> >> do not speak English into areas of the country where less spanish is
>> >> spoken would make them less likely to be noticed.
>>
>> Well?
>>
>> >>
>> >> Seriously, do you ever think before you screed?
>> >
>> >
>> >And you?
>>
>> And me, what? The fact your whole Strawman was evicerated means what
>> to you?
>>
>>
>> >ow many cities in the US have large Spanish speaking populations?
>> >
>>
>> So that is your best response. No effort to actually describe how your
>> belief that moving away from the bborder will allow criminals to
>> perform criminal acts. All you can come up with is "they speak spanish
>> in cities".
>>
>> So, do all of the illegals move to the cities away from the border to
>> perform their nefarious criminal activities?
>
>You couldn't evicerate a turkey.
>
>
Well, at least this time your weak and pathetic post sni-n-run attempt
at a flame made minimal sense.

But given where you are mentally, you've been watching your secret
stash of Palin videos, the Thanksgiving Special edition, right?

From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:21:46 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio,
Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
writing:

>On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:20:53 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>>
>>>ow many cities in the US have large Spanish speaking populations?
>>>
>>
>> So that is your best response. No effort to actually describe how your
>> belief that moving away from the bborder will allow criminals to
>> perform criminal acts. All you can come up with is "they speak spanish
>> in cities".
>>
>> So, do all of the illegals move to the cities away from the border to
>> perform their nefarious criminal activities?
>
>Yes. It actually requires some though and extrapolation.
>
>No wonder you didn't get the point.
>

One does wonder why you had to snip the context and make your
statement fit the altered context. What was it about you having to
defend your own positions that made you so afraid? Specifically why
are you afraid to explain why you believe that Illegal Aliens are more
likely to commit crimes at some undefined distance from the border in
areas where they are much more likely to stand out.

I restored the context for you in case you forgot from what you are
running away, coward.


From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:31:00 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio,
Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
writing:

>On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 21:13:07 -0400, ah wrote:
>
>> On 8/2/2010 9:52 PM, Hachiroku ???? wrote:
>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:03:12 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:15:56 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>>>> Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
>>>> writing:
>>>>
>>>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:11:16 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:21:26 -0500, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>>>>>> Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007474,00.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>US Border Cities Safe sez Time Magazine
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You are going to make him cry, again.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm an illegal alien.
>>>>>I come into the US illegally.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm going to hang around in a border city.
>>>>>
>>>> <STRAWMAN ALERT>
>>>>>Only someone as dumb as you and Fred would do something that stupid.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> No, that would be John McCain and Jan Brewer making the claims of
>>>> violence along the border, dumbass.
>>>>
>>>> So, do tell us, how far do they travel and in what jurisdiction would
>>>> they be less likely to attract attention. Explain how moving away from
>>>> a predominately hispanic area of the country where significant numbers
>>>> do not speak English into areas of the country where less spanish is
>>>> spoken would make them less likely to be noticed.
>>>>
>>>> Seriously, do you ever think before you screed?
>>>
>>>
>>> And you? How many cities in the US have large Spanish speaking populations?
>>
>> WDYMB 'large'?
>
>
>Holyoke, MA:
>
>Today Latinos form the largest minority group in the city, with the
>largest percentage-wise Puerto Rican population of any city in the US
>outside Puerto Rico proper, at 36.5%. Hispanic or Latino of any race were
>41.38% of the population.
>
>I'd say that's fairly large.

I'd say that is Puerto Rican and that they speak a different and
identifiable spanish dialect that differes from the Mexican or Central
American dialects.

So in what way does a non-mexican/central american population of
hispanics support your belief that the illegal aliens of
mexican/central america origin traverse the country prior to the
commision of crimes?

>
>
>Springfield, MA:
>
>27.18% of the population were Hispanic of any race. That's 41,500.
>
>
>Hartford:
>
>Hispanic or Latino(of any race) 49260 40.52%
>
>Lawrence, MA
>
>Hispanic or Latino of any race were 59.71% of the population (U.S.
>Average: 12.5%).
>
>I guess if you're Spanish speaking, you wouldn't have to hang around AZ,
>you could go a lot of places and blend in.
>


So, what percentage are the ones that got away from the border to
commit their crimes? That was the point of your red herring, remember?
From: pandora on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 19:06:48 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:34:38 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio, pandora
> <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:03:12 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:15:56 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>>> Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
>>> writing:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:11:16 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:21:26 -0500, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>>>>> Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for
>>>>> writing:
>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007474,00.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>US Border Cities Safe sez Time Magazine
>>>>>
>>>>> You are going to make him cry, again.
>>>>
>>>>I'm an illegal alien.
>>>>I come into the US illegally.
>>>>
>>>>I'm going to hang around in a border city.
>>>>
>>> <STRAWMAN ALERT>
>>>>Only someone as dumb as you and Fred would do something that stupid.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> No, that would be John McCain and Jan Brewer making the claims of
>>> violence along the border, dumbass.
>>>
>>> So, do tell us, how far do they travel and in what jurisdiction would
>>> they be less likely to attract attention. Explain how moving away from
>>> a predominately hispanic area of the country where significant numbers
>>> do not speak English into areas of the country where less spanish is
>>> spoken would make them less likely to be noticed.
>>
>>Perhaps they run to Massachusetts? Or at least, that's what Hachoo is
>>worried about.
>
> Except the FBI says they are not a criminal problem. :According to FBI
> statistics, violent crimes reported in Arizona dropped by nearly 1,500
> :reported incidents between 2005 and 2008. Reported property crimes also
> fell, from :about 287,000 reported incidents to 279,000 in the same
> period. These decreases :are accentuated by the fact that Arizona's
> population grew by 600,000 between 2005 and 2008.
> http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/29/arizona.immigration.crime/index.html

Interesting indeed.

> :According to the FBI, that's true across the southern border this
> decade. In San Diego violent :crime is down 17 percent. In El Paso,
> Texas violent crime down 36 percent - it sits right across :from Juarez,
> Mexico, one of the deadliest cities on earth. In Phoenix major crime has
> dropped :10 percent from 2000 to 2009.
> :
> :West along the border in Nogales, Arizona, Chris Ciruli said it's a
> "safe environment."
> http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/22/eveningnews/main6703953.shtml
>
I noticed. So much for the *cry* that illegals are causing massive crime.

>>> Seriously, do you ever think before you screed?
>>
>>You mean, does he *ever* think?
>
> He once tried to think but sprained his brain and has been extra careful
> ever since.

So it would seem. Sad, really.
From: pandora on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 22:21:06 -0400, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:

> On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 18:20:53 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>>>And you?
>>
>> And me, what? The fact your whole Strawman was evicerated means what to
>> you?
>
> You couldn't evicerate a turkey.

And once again you run away when you have no valid argument.
Loser.