From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:10:39 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

>>Why not check pandora's posts. She wants to grant them amnesty.
>>And if you support Obungler's 'solution', so do you.
>>Chowderhead.
>
> So you ascribe the comments of a thrird party to Fred.
>
> Yes, that would be the definition of a strawman, dumbass.


Uh, so what?


From: pandora on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:03:12 -0700, Aratzio wrote:

> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:15:56 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
> Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for writing:
>
>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:11:16 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:21:26 -0500, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>>> Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>
>>>>http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007474,00.html
>>>>
>>>>US Border Cities Safe sez Time Magazine
>>>
>>> You are going to make him cry, again.
>>
>>I'm an illegal alien.
>>I come into the US illegally.
>>
>>I'm going to hang around in a border city.
>>
> <STRAWMAN ALERT>
>>Only someone as dumb as you and Fred would do something that stupid.
>>
>>
> No, that would be John McCain and Jan Brewer making the claims of
> violence along the border, dumbass.
>
> So, do tell us, how far do they travel and in what jurisdiction would
> they be less likely to attract attention. Explain how moving away from a
> predominately hispanic area of the country where significant numbers do
> not speak English into areas of the country where less spanish is spoken
> would make them less likely to be noticed.

Perhaps they run to Massachusetts? Or at least, that's what Hachoo is
worried about.

> Seriously, do you ever think before you screed?

You mean, does he *ever* think?
From: ah on
On 8/2/2010 9:52 PM, Hachiroku ハチロク wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:03:12 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:15:56 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>> Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
>> writing:
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:11:16 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:21:26 -0500, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>>>> Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007474,00.html
>>>>>
>>>>>US Border Cities Safe sez Time Magazine
>>>>
>>>> You are going to make him cry, again.
>>>
>>>I'm an illegal alien.
>>>I come into the US illegally.
>>>
>>>I'm going to hang around in a border city.
>>>
>> <STRAWMAN ALERT>
>>>Only someone as dumb as you and Fred would do something that stupid.
>>>
>>>
>> No, that would be John McCain and Jan Brewer making the claims of
>> violence along the border, dumbass.
>>
>> So, do tell us, how far do they travel and in what jurisdiction would
>> they be less likely to attract attention. Explain how moving away from
>> a predominately hispanic area of the country where significant numbers
>> do not speak English into areas of the country where less spanish is
>> spoken would make them less likely to be noticed.
>>
>> Seriously, do you ever think before you screed?
>
>
> And you? How many cities in the US have large Spanish speaking populations?

WDYMB 'large'?
--
a "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nv28lunRSY" h
From: Aratzio on
On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:52:50 -0400, in the land of alt.aratzio,
Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
writing:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:03:12 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:15:56 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>> Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for
>> writing:
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:11:16 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:21:26 -0500, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>>>> Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007474,00.html
>>>>>
>>>>>US Border Cities Safe sez Time Magazine
>>>>
>>>> You are going to make him cry, again.
>>>
>>>I'm an illegal alien.
>>>I come into the US illegally.
>>>
>>>I'm going to hang around in a border city.
>>>
>> <STRAWMAN ALERT>
>>>Only someone as dumb as you and Fred would do something that stupid.
>>>
>>>
>> No, that would be John McCain and Jan Brewer making the claims of
>> violence along the border, dumbass.

His Strawman shoved where the sun doesn't shine, Hachiroku just
ignores the sharp pains and moves on to his next level of stupid.

>>
>> So, do tell us, how far do they travel and in what jurisdiction would
>> they be less likely to attract attention.

Well?

>xplain how moving away from
>> a predominately hispanic area of the country where significant numbers
>> do not speak English into areas of the country where less spanish is
>> spoken would make them less likely to be noticed.

Well?

>>
>> Seriously, do you ever think before you screed?
>
>
>And you?

And me, what? The fact your whole Strawman was evicerated means what
to you?


>ow many cities in the US have large Spanish speaking populations?
>

So that is your best response. No effort to actually describe how your
belief that moving away from the bborder will allow criminals to
perform criminal acts. All you can come up with is "they speak spanish
in cities".

So, do all of the illegals move to the cities away from the border to
perform their nefarious criminal activities?


From: Aratzio on
On Tue, 03 Aug 2010 14:34:38 -0500, in the land of alt.aratzio,
pandora <pandora(a)peak.org> got double secret probation for writing:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 18:03:12 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 19:15:56 -0400, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>> Hachiroku ???? <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> got double secret probation for writing:
>>
>>>On Mon, 02 Aug 2010 16:11:16 -0700, Aratzio wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sun, 01 Aug 2010 22:21:26 -0500, in the land of alt.autos.toyota,
>>>> Fred Hall <fkhall(a)gmail.com> got double secret probation for writing:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2007474,00.html
>>>>>
>>>>>US Border Cities Safe sez Time Magazine
>>>>
>>>> You are going to make him cry, again.
>>>
>>>I'm an illegal alien.
>>>I come into the US illegally.
>>>
>>>I'm going to hang around in a border city.
>>>
>> <STRAWMAN ALERT>
>>>Only someone as dumb as you and Fred would do something that stupid.
>>>
>>>
>> No, that would be John McCain and Jan Brewer making the claims of
>> violence along the border, dumbass.
>>
>> So, do tell us, how far do they travel and in what jurisdiction would
>> they be less likely to attract attention. Explain how moving away from a
>> predominately hispanic area of the country where significant numbers do
>> not speak English into areas of the country where less spanish is spoken
>> would make them less likely to be noticed.
>
>Perhaps they run to Massachusetts? Or at least, that's what Hachoo is
>worried about.

Except the FBI says they are not a criminal problem.
:According to FBI statistics, violent crimes reported in Arizona dropped by nearly 1,500
:reported incidents between 2005 and 2008. Reported property crimes also fell, from
:about 287,000 reported incidents to 279,000 in the same period. These decreases
:are accentuated by the fact that Arizona's population grew by 600,000 between 2005 and 2008.
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/04/29/arizona.immigration.crime/index.html

:According to the FBI, that's true across the southern border this decade. In San Diego violent
:crime is down 17 percent. In El Paso, Texas violent crime down 36 percent - it sits right across
:from Juarez, Mexico, one of the deadliest cities on earth. In Phoenix major crime has dropped
:10 percent from 2000 to 2009.
:
:West along the border in Nogales, Arizona, Chris Ciruli said it's a "safe environment."
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/07/22/eveningnews/main6703953.shtml

>
>> Seriously, do you ever think before you screed?
>
>You mean, does he *ever* think?

He once tried to think but sprained his brain and has been extra
careful ever since.