From: Hachiroku ハチロク on
On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:28:25 -0700, sittingduck wrote:

>> The only way to truly stop things like this from happening would be to
>> (correctly) institute a surveillance system which prevents government
>> employees from being influenced by industry. This will never happen,
>> unfortunately, even though we have all the resources we need to do it.
>
> Republicans admit that they hate government. They work from within to
> weaken and defraud it.

Whew. Have you got *that* backwards.


From: Cliff on
On Tue, 25 May 2010 06:41:29 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>
>
>"Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message
>news:dholv5hai7rfj9qdgfave6fr9vm3i3a6ur(a)4ax.com...
>>
>> http://www.alternet.org/news/146965/party_of_no%3A_how_republicans_and_the_right_have_tried_to_thwart_all_social_progress
>> "Party of No: How Republicans and the Right Have Tried to Thwart All
>> Social
>> Progress"
>> "You name it, the right has opposed it: civil rights, school
>> desegregation,
>> women's rights, labor organizing, the minimum wage, LGBT rights, welfare,
>> immigrant rights. "
>> [
>> May 23, 2010 As much as they may grumble, there is a legitimate reason
>> why the
>> Republicans have been labeled the "Party of No." For decades, the party's
>> kneejerk stance has been to oppose any legislation or policy involving
>> social,
>> economic or political progress.
>>
>> You name it, the right has opposed it: civil rights, school desegregation,
>> women's rights, labor organizing, the minimum wage, social security, LGBT
>> rights, welfare, immigrant rights, public education, reproductive rights,
>> Medicare, Medicaid. And through the years the right invoked hysterical
>> rhetoric
>> in opposition, predicting that implementing any such policies would result
>> in
>> the end-of-family-free-enterprise-God-America on the one hand, and the
>> imposition of atheism-socialism-Nazism on the other.
>>
>> Republicans are obstructionist for one simple reason: it's a winning
>> strategy.
>> Opposing progressive policies allows the right to actualize the ideals
>> that both
>> motivate and define their base. Rightist ideologies are not without
>> sophistication, but right-wing politicians and media figures boil them
>> down to a
>> crude Manichean dualism to mobilize supporters based on group difference:
>> good
>> versus evil, us versus them. By demonizing and scapegoating politically
>> marginal
>> groups, the right is able to define "real Americans," who are good, versus
>> those
>> defined as parasites, illegitimate and internal threats, who are evil.
>> .....
>> Sara Diamond neatly summarizes the politics behind the right's
>> obstructionism in
>> her book, Roads To Dominion. She writes, "To be right-wing means to
>> support the
>> state in its capacity as enforcer of order and to oppose the state as
>> distributor of wealth and power downward and more equitably in society."
>> (emphasis in original) These principles, in turn, flow from four
>> interrelated
>> political philosophies that animate the modern right: militarism,
>> neoliberalism,
>> traditionalism and white supremacism.
>> ....
>> ]
>
>
>Bullshit.

IOW Nary a single winger dare dispute a word of it !!
--
Cliff
From: JoeSpareBedroom on
"Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
news:mbfLn.28077$rU6.4066(a)newsfe10.iad...
> On Wed, 26 May 2010 02:01:16 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
>
>> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message
>> news:q%_Kn.50664$jt.9351(a)newsfe04.iad...
>>> On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:28:25 -0700, sittingduck wrote:
>>>
>>>>> The only way to truly stop things like this from happening would be to
>>>>> (correctly) institute a surveillance system which prevents government
>>>>> employees from being influenced by industry. This will never happen,
>>>>> unfortunately, even though we have all the resources we need to do it.
>>>>
>>>> Republicans admit that they hate government. They work from within to
>>>> weaken and defraud it.
>>>
>>> Whew. Have you got *that* backwards.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> "That"? He made two statements. Which of the two are you referring to?
>
> Since I responded to the second statemwnt my (correct) guess would be
> that's the one.


Since you previously gave no indication of which statement you were
responding to, there was no way of knowing.


From: Sharx35 on


"sittingduck" <duck(a)spamherelots.com> wrote in message
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> tankfixer wrote:
>
>>> Still staffed by bush,jr appointees!
>
>> Who's fault is that ?
>
> People too dumb to know better, indoctrinated by the right-wing propaganda
> machine that creates the pathetic attitudes displayed in this thread.

Naturally, like so many UNinformed, NA�VE LIEbrawls, you fail to see that
YOUR emperor is wearing no clothes.


>
> --
> Rationality belongs to the cool observer, but because of the stupidity of
> the
> average man, he follows not reason but faith - Reinhold Niebuhr

From: Mike Hunter on
Are you referring to the Dims who believe BO is doing a great job as
President? ;)


"sittingduck" <duck(a)spamherelots.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9D84ED81B4A1Bduckrulestheuniverse(a)nomail.afraid.org...
> tankfixer wrote:
>
>>> Still staffed by bush,jr appointees!
>
>> Who's fault is that ?
>
> People too dumb to know better, indoctrinated by the right-wing propaganda
> machine that creates the pathetic attitudes displayed in this thread.
>
> --
> Rationality belongs to the cool observer, but because of the stupidity of
> the
> average man, he follows not reason but faith - Reinhold Niebuhr