From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 25 May 2010 21:41 On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:28:25 -0700, sittingduck wrote: >> The only way to truly stop things like this from happening would be to >> (correctly) institute a surveillance system which prevents government >> employees from being influenced by industry. This will never happen, >> unfortunately, even though we have all the resources we need to do it. > > Republicans admit that they hate government. They work from within to > weaken and defraud it. Whew. Have you got *that* backwards.
From: Cliff on 26 May 2010 11:55 On Tue, 25 May 2010 06:41:29 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > >"Cliff" <Clhuprichguesswhat(a)aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in message >news:dholv5hai7rfj9qdgfave6fr9vm3i3a6ur(a)4ax.com... >> >> http://www.alternet.org/news/146965/party_of_no%3A_how_republicans_and_the_right_have_tried_to_thwart_all_social_progress >> "Party of No: How Republicans and the Right Have Tried to Thwart All >> Social >> Progress" >> "You name it, the right has opposed it: civil rights, school >> desegregation, >> women's rights, labor organizing, the minimum wage, LGBT rights, welfare, >> immigrant rights. " >> [ >> May 23, 2010 As much as they may grumble, there is a legitimate reason >> why the >> Republicans have been labeled the "Party of No." For decades, the party's >> kneejerk stance has been to oppose any legislation or policy involving >> social, >> economic or political progress. >> >> You name it, the right has opposed it: civil rights, school desegregation, >> women's rights, labor organizing, the minimum wage, social security, LGBT >> rights, welfare, immigrant rights, public education, reproductive rights, >> Medicare, Medicaid. And through the years the right invoked hysterical >> rhetoric >> in opposition, predicting that implementing any such policies would result >> in >> the end-of-family-free-enterprise-God-America on the one hand, and the >> imposition of atheism-socialism-Nazism on the other. >> >> Republicans are obstructionist for one simple reason: it's a winning >> strategy. >> Opposing progressive policies allows the right to actualize the ideals >> that both >> motivate and define their base. Rightist ideologies are not without >> sophistication, but right-wing politicians and media figures boil them >> down to a >> crude Manichean dualism to mobilize supporters based on group difference: >> good >> versus evil, us versus them. By demonizing and scapegoating politically >> marginal >> groups, the right is able to define "real Americans," who are good, versus >> those >> defined as parasites, illegitimate and internal threats, who are evil. >> ..... >> Sara Diamond neatly summarizes the politics behind the right's >> obstructionism in >> her book, Roads To Dominion. She writes, "To be right-wing means to >> support the >> state in its capacity as enforcer of order and to oppose the state as >> distributor of wealth and power downward and more equitably in society." >> (emphasis in original) These principles, in turn, flow from four >> interrelated >> political philosophies that animate the modern right: militarism, >> neoliberalism, >> traditionalism and white supremacism. >> .... >> ] > > >Bullshit. IOW Nary a single winger dare dispute a word of it !! -- Cliff
From: JoeSpareBedroom on 26 May 2010 16:13 "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message news:mbfLn.28077$rU6.4066(a)newsfe10.iad... > On Wed, 26 May 2010 02:01:16 -0400, JoeSpareBedroom wrote: > >> "Hachiroku ????" <Trueno(a)e86.GTS> wrote in message >> news:q%_Kn.50664$jt.9351(a)newsfe04.iad... >>> On Tue, 25 May 2010 18:28:25 -0700, sittingduck wrote: >>> >>>>> The only way to truly stop things like this from happening would be to >>>>> (correctly) institute a surveillance system which prevents government >>>>> employees from being influenced by industry. This will never happen, >>>>> unfortunately, even though we have all the resources we need to do it. >>>> >>>> Republicans admit that they hate government. They work from within to >>>> weaken and defraud it. >>> >>> Whew. Have you got *that* backwards. >>> >>> >>> >> >> "That"? He made two statements. Which of the two are you referring to? > > Since I responded to the second statemwnt my (correct) guess would be > that's the one. Since you previously gave no indication of which statement you were responding to, there was no way of knowing.
From: Sharx35 on 27 May 2010 02:55 "sittingduck" <duck(a)spamherelots.com> wrote in message news:Xns9D84ED81B4A1Bduckrulestheuniverse(a)nomail.afraid.org... > tankfixer wrote: > >>> Still staffed by bush,jr appointees! > >> Who's fault is that ? > > People too dumb to know better, indoctrinated by the right-wing propaganda > machine that creates the pathetic attitudes displayed in this thread. Naturally, like so many UNinformed, NA�VE LIEbrawls, you fail to see that YOUR emperor is wearing no clothes. > > -- > Rationality belongs to the cool observer, but because of the stupidity of > the > average man, he follows not reason but faith - Reinhold Niebuhr
From: Mike Hunter on 27 May 2010 10:00
Are you referring to the Dims who believe BO is doing a great job as President? ;) "sittingduck" <duck(a)spamherelots.com> wrote in message news:Xns9D84ED81B4A1Bduckrulestheuniverse(a)nomail.afraid.org... > tankfixer wrote: > >>> Still staffed by bush,jr appointees! > >> Who's fault is that ? > > People too dumb to know better, indoctrinated by the right-wing propaganda > machine that creates the pathetic attitudes displayed in this thread. > > -- > Rationality belongs to the cool observer, but because of the stupidity of > the > average man, he follows not reason but faith - Reinhold Niebuhr |