PRIUS wins Drive People's Choice Award 2009
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From: PoulS on 26 Dec 2009 12:19 > > You may consider the Prius to be a small car, > > Thank you. I do, and largely because it is...... Yet, compared to what most italians drive, it's quite large. The comparison that make you consider it small, is not relevant to most people on the internet.
From: Noddy on 26 Dec 2009 18:44 "PoulS" <poul.staugaard(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:757b80d8-0c26-40cb-87f2-0da4a8c8c13d(a)21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > Yet, compared to what most italians drive, it's quite large. Compared to what most Albanians drive it's powered by an engine and not a donkey. How is either of those two examples relevant? > The comparison that make you consider it small, is not relevant to most > people on the internet. Did you conduct a genuine arms length survey to find that out, or have you just decided to assume that what works for you works for everyone else? Size is relative. Compared to an original Fiat Bambino the Prius is enormous and compared to a Camry it's small. Compared to a Corolla there's such an insignificant difference between them you could be forgiven for thinking they were both built on the same platform. However, to label the Prius "mid sized" makes every other genuine mid sized car look like a 1972 Cadillac by comparison. If it works for you that's fine, but please don't assume that the rest of the world thinks like you do. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: PoulS on 27 Dec 2009 10:53 On Dec 27, 12:44 am, "Noddy" <m...(a)home.com> wrote: > "PoulS" <poul.stauga...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:757b80d8-0c26-40cb-87f2-0da4a8c8c13d(a)21g2000yqj.googlegroups.com... > > > Yet, compared to what most italians drive, it's quite large. > > Compared to what most Albanians drive it's powered by an engine and not a > donkey. How is either of those two examples relevant? > It's perfectly relevant to what Italians would consider small. > > The comparison that make you consider it small, is not relevant to most > > people on the internet. > > Did you conduct a genuine arms length survey to find that out, or have you > just decided to assume that what works for you works for everyone else? > Size is relative. Compared to an original Fiat Bambino the Prius is enormous > and compared to a Camry it's small. Compared to a Corolla there's such an > insignificant difference between them you could be forgiven for thinking > they were both built on the same platform. Not really. Let's look at the wheelbase (inches) of Toyotas entire range of cars: iQ: 78.0 Aygo: 91.3 Yaris: 96.9 Corolla: 102.4 Prius & Avensis: 106.3 Camry: 109.3 Avalon: 111.0 The Prius wheelbase is actually closer to that of the Camry than to that of the Corolla. Presumably, the Camry is what you consider mid-sized, but take a look at what Toyota sells in Europe: Neither the Avalon nor the Camry are sold here. The Prius and the Avensis are the largest. > However, to label the Prius "mid > sized" makes every other genuine mid sized car look like a 1972 Cadillac by > comparison. Looking at Toyotas range of cars, it would be reasonable to label iQ, Aygo and Yaris small, Corolla, Prius and Avensis mid-sized and Camry and Avalon large. > > If it works for you that's fine, but please don't assume that the rest of > the world thinks like you do. I don't assume anything. I'm merely pointing out that what you consider mid-sized, would be considered large in most countries. The US and Australian markets are not typical in a global perspective. > > -- > Regards, > Noddy.
From: Noddy on 27 Dec 2009 18:15 "PoulS" <poul.staugaard(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:ec75c2f2-8885-4531-9e69-0ce0c91a0a44(a)m26g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > It's perfectly relevant to what Italians would consider small. Uh-huh :) > Not really. Let's look at the wheelbase (inches) of Toyotas entire > range of cars: <snip> You do that, and when you've finished go back and look at the rest of the physical specs of the cars, and in particular the interior dimensions. > Presumably, the Camry is what you consider mid-sized, but take a look > at what Toyota sells in Europe. I'm not in Europe, and couldn't care less what they sell over there. > Neither the Avalon nor the Camry are sold here. The Prius and the Avensis > are the largest. Just because the Prius is one of the largest cars Toyota offers in your particular part of the world doesn't mean it's a *large* car. Here the Prius is considerably smaller than the Camry, and so much so that no one but a complete idiot could consider them to be in the same size class. > Looking at Toyotas range of cars, it would be reasonable to label iQ, > Aygo and Yaris small, Corolla, Prius and Avensis mid-sized and Camry > and Avalon large. Maybe in your world mate. > I don't assume anything. I'm merely pointing out that what you > consider mid-sized, would be considered large in most countries. The > US and Australian markets are not typical in a global perspective. I think the Camry is considered mid sized in just about every market it's sold in. -- Regards, Noddy.
From: Noddy on 27 Dec 2009 18:17
"PoulS" <poul.staugaard(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:32294be6-b2ef-4186-8c57-7ae0348d4db4(a)b2g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > Oh, I had pretty much figured that out; I just didn't know the proper > term was jingoist. Now I know, thank you. I really don't think you do, but you just keep playing along with your fuckwit American friend there. Between the two of you you should be able to rustle up enough brains to open a packet of Wizz Fizz and work out what to do with the contents. -- Regards, Noddy. |