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From: ransley on 15 Feb 2010 22:48 On Feb 15, 4:02 pm, "Daniel who wants to know" <m...(a)here.edu> wrote: > "nobody but us chickens" <nos...(a)nospam.com> wrote in messagenews:I5Udn.51438$zN4.11450(a)newsfe05.iad... > > >I bought a Prius yesterday, not new but new to me. > > A 2008 with 14000+ miles on it. > > It's like a spaceship inside though I'm sure I'll get used to it. > > Had to call the dealer & ask if that anti-theft system light is > > supposed to flash constantly & yes it is. > > I'm not used to something showing on the dash when a car > > is turned off. > > Any hints or tips for this model? Thanks > > Sure, (to expand on ransley's post) If you change your own oil put in 3.5 > quarts not the 3.9 that is specified. If you have it changed tell them to > only put in 3 quarts and top it off yourself later as they see the 3.9 > number and just put in 4 from the bulk oil resulting in an overfill. The > oil level on the dipstick must never be above the max/full mark as > overfilling is known to reduce MPG and cause oil to pool in the bottom of > the intake manifold. It is best to have the level be just slightly below the > full mark as the Prius doesn't consume much oil so you don't have to worry > about it dropping below add between the 5K changes. Also look up the > "Maintenance Required" light reset procedure in the owner's manual or online > as some times the change places forget to do it. > > 0W30 oil is OK but never go thicker that the specified 5W30. I dont believe in 5000 mil changes unless its all highway, to me its a guidline and 3500 is better for the motor. I notice a performance drop off around 25-3000. The Mobil 1 0-30 gives you better milage, its probaby one of the best oils made
From: Daniel who wants to know on 16 Feb 2010 00:15 I have Mobil 1 AFE 0W30 in my 95 Grand Caravan 3.3 right now but that is only because of the group 4 base stock shortage from the hurricanes. I normally run 5W30 non-EP in it. At any rate have you looked at how easy a life the 1NZ-FXE ICE (engine) in the Prius lives? It is babied while it is cold, spun up to 1000 RPM before the fuel and spark are added, doesn't usually just idle, is completely stopped at times, and in the case of the one in the US spec NHW20 is preheated by hot coolant stored in a thermos bottle. Considering all of that I feel that 5k is more than enough. The NHW11 had an interval of 7.5k and it didn't have the thermos bottle and used a regular O2 sensor upstream instead of an air/fuel ratio (wideband) sensor like the NHW20. That and the block has an offset crank so the pistons have less side load on them during the power stroke.
From: Al Falfa on 16 Feb 2010 11:12 "ransley" <Mark_Ransley(a)Yahoo.com> wrote in message news:26bd9439-3f0b-4db5-8775-fea75b2a6e90(a)q16g2000yqq.googlegroups.com... > On Feb 15, 4:02 pm, "Daniel who wants to know" <m...(a)here.edu> wrote: >> "nobody but us chickens" <nos...(a)nospam.com> wrote in >> messagenews:I5Udn.51438$zN4.11450(a)newsfe05.iad... >> >> >I bought a Prius yesterday, not new but new to me. >> > A 2008 with 14000+ miles on it. >> > It's like a spaceship inside though I'm sure I'll get used to it. >> > Had to call the dealer & ask if that anti-theft system light is >> > supposed to flash constantly & yes it is. >> > I'm not used to something showing on the dash when a car >> > is turned off. >> > Any hints or tips for this model? Thanks >> >> Sure, (to expand on ransley's post) If you change your own oil put in 3.5 >> quarts not the 3.9 that is specified. If you have it changed tell them to >> only put in 3 quarts and top it off yourself later as they see the 3.9 >> number and just put in 4 from the bulk oil resulting in an overfill. The >> oil level on the dipstick must never be above the max/full mark as >> overfilling is known to reduce MPG and cause oil to pool in the bottom of >> the intake manifold. It is best to have the level be just slightly below >> the >> full mark as the Prius doesn't consume much oil so you don't have to >> worry >> about it dropping below add between the 5K changes. Also look up the >> "Maintenance Required" light reset procedure in the owner's manual or >> online >> as some times the change places forget to do it. >> >> 0W30 oil is OK but never go thicker that the specified 5W30. > > I dont believe in 5000 mil changes unless its all highway, to me its a > guidline and 3500 is better for the motor. I notice a performance drop > off around 25-3000. The Mobil 1 0-30 gives you better milage, its > probaby one of the best oils made the 2010 calls for Synthetic 0W20.
From: ransley on 16 Feb 2010 13:30 On Feb 15, 11:15 pm, "Daniel who wants to know" <m...(a)here.edu> wrote: > I have Mobil 1 AFE 0W30 in my 95 Grand Caravan 3.3 right now but that is > only because of the group 4 base stock shortage from the hurricanes. I > normally run 5W30 non-EP in it. > > At any rate have you looked at how easy a life the 1NZ-FXE ICE (engine) in > the Prius lives? It is babied while it is cold, spun up to 1000 RPM before > the fuel and spark are added, doesn't usually just idle, is completely > stopped at times, and in the case of the one in the US spec NHW20 is > preheated by hot coolant stored in a thermos bottle. Considering all of > that I feel that 5k is more than enough. The NHW11 had an interval of 7.5k > and it didn't have the thermos bottle and used a regular O2 sensor upstream > instead of an air/fuel ratio (wideband) sensor like the NHW20. That and the > block has an offset crank so the pistons have less side load on them during > the power stroke. I view oil changes as a "how its used" issue. One winter down to -15f my parents drove no more than 5 miles a day, sometimes 2 and the oil was a wet black at 1500. I drive that car now at least 20 minutes to 1 hrs at a time and the oil looks better than theirs with 4000 on it. With short cycles like the camry may have and driver style, I would still say the earlier the better. A motor need to remain above 170f for the majority of its operation or contaminents never get a chance to cook off. Below 140f is real hard on oil. Another example, moisture and gas collects in oil, we took a friends moms car that was short city driven on a 2 hr ride, we checked the oil before, after it was 1 qt low, it was low becase it cooked out 1 qt of water and gas byproducts it had no leaks, but they never maintained their stuff anyway. Point is you have to know a oils color and smell to know when to really change it, the city here would be listed under severe driving and even toyota lists severe driving oil changes at less miles. Be safe and check its color and smell.
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