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From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 14 Jan 2007 13:27 On Sat, 13 Jan 2007 10:39:34 -1000, David Iwaoka wrote: > Hachiroku $B%O%A%m%/ wrote: > > >> Fiats? But why would you WANT to? >> >> > Back in the old days the 124s were quite advanced - rear disk brakes, 5 > speed transmission, DOHC hemi engines, a very cool european horn. I had 4 > of those. As I recall Toyota came out with a twin cam about 10 years later > than Fiat. Nowdays, I'm way too old to take care of a Fiat - a Toyota's > more my speed. :-) We didn't call them "Fix it again, Tony"s for nothing! I went out with a girl in the 80's that sold them, and she called them Ratburgers... But, you are correct. They were fairly advanced for their day! Ever driven a Lada?
From: David Iwaoka on 14 Jan 2007 17:37 Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > > We didn't call them "Fix it again, Tony"s for nothing! > I went out with a girl in the 80's that sold them, and she called them > Ratburgers... > > But, you are correct. They were fairly advanced for their day! > > Ever driven a Lada? > > In the 80's I'd see 124s on the side of the road and most likely it was from a broken timing belt. This was good for me as I got pretty good at changing the belt and that meant I could get a good price for a dead 124. We had one baby so I had the 124 coupes - this worked out well for a small family. I think the design was influential. For a while VW and Volvo used Fiat's valve shim system for ohc valve adjustments - they payed Fiat for this. I also suspect that the design of many rear disk parking brakes in use today is the same design as those old Fiats. If I recall correctly, GM though so highly of the 124 coupe they copied the design/construction of the car and their version was called the Vega. The story is they even copied the Fiat's self-destruct rust features. :-) Of course they added their own self-destruct aluminum engine to really seal that deal. :-) The Lada was a Russian-made 124 at one time? We never got them in the US, instead we were blessed with the Yugo which was a Eastern European 128. I've never driven a car from that part of the world but I'll bet they're a lot better now days!
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 15 Jan 2007 00:30 On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 12:37:37 -1000, David Iwaoka wrote: > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > > >> We didn't call them "Fix it again, Tony"s for nothing! I went out with a >> girl in the 80's that sold them, and she called them Ratburgers... >> >> But, you are correct. They were fairly advanced for their day! >> >> Ever driven a Lada? >> >> >> > In the 80's I'd see 124s on the side of the road and most likely it was > from a broken timing belt. This was good for me as I got pretty good at > changing the belt and that meant I could get a good price for a dead 124. > > We had one baby so I had the 124 coupes - this worked out well for a small > family. I think the design was influential. For a while VW and Volvo used > Fiat's valve shim system for ohc valve adjustments - they payed Fiat for > this. I also suspect that the design of many rear disk parking brakes in > use today is the same design as those old Fiats. If I recall correctly, GM > though so highly of the 124 coupe they copied the design/construction of > the car and their version was called the Vega. The story is they even > copied the Fiat's self-destruct rust features. > :-) Of course they added their own self-destruct aluminum engine to > really seal that deal. :-) > > The Lada was a Russian-made 124 at one time? We never got them in the US, > instead we were blessed with the Yugo which was a Eastern European 128. > I've never driven a car from that part of the world but I'll bet they're a > lot better now days! In the US...that's where I am... But, I made a lot of trips to Canada, my Stepfather's family was from Quebec and my wife's sisters are all in the Toronto area. Yeah, I got to drive a Lada...Made a Fiat seem like a dream!
From: David Iwaoka on 15 Jan 2007 17:14 Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > > In the US...that's where I am... > > But, I made a lot of trips to Canada, my Stepfather's family was from > Quebec and my wife's sisters are all in the Toronto area. Yeah, I got to > drive a Lada...Made a Fiat seem like a dream! I think Fiats work better in Italy or in warmer areas but driving a Soviet-made Fiat up north might be just asking for major discomfort. :-) Is your name 86? David
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 15 Jan 2007 22:11
On Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:14:46 -1000, David Iwaoka wrote: > Hachiroku ハチロク wrote: > > >> In the US...that's where I am... >> >> But, I made a lot of trips to Canada, my Stepfather's family was from >> Quebec and my wife's sisters are all in the Toronto area. Yeah, I got to >> drive a Lada...Made a Fiat seem like a dream! > > I think Fiats work better in Italy or in warmer areas but driving a > Soviet-made Fiat up north might be just asking for major discomfort. :-) > Is your name 86? > > David LOL! Very good! Most people just ask me, "what the HELL does that mean?!?!?" I guess I could change it...we have a guy in town named Chevy Pickup. My friend, a Court officer, says that is his LEGAL name (Legal, for sure...he's in and out of the courtroom every week, and his wife Cheryl Pickup or whatever her first name is, is headed that way too... What it really is, is this: http://www.home.no/hopless/adrian/ae86.jpg Of course, I don't drive mine in the winter... Actually, more like this: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g38/Airwolf_Ae86/Ae86/CRW_8198.jpg |