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From: urod on 28 Dec 2009 10:59 On 28 дек, 16:21, "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <el...(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote: > And if your battery is dead (it's not an aux battery, it's the car's > battery, just like a conventional car) Here is the URL where the term "auxiliary battery" is used: http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3750 Now I tried to charge the battery with Hella Power Charger (using the picture), but it failed. Maybe it is still wrong "-" or the charger is incompatible with batteries. Whatever it is, I think that Prius is poorly designed. Obviously all the lights should be switched off when the battery is almost discharged, leaving enough "juice" to start the car. And "+" and "-" should be clearly marked as such and easy to find.
From: David T. Johnson on 28 Dec 2009 12:33 urod wrote: > The manual is incomprehensible. For the start, it doesn't explain how > to open the hatch. After lots of trying, I found the button under the > hatch, found the stick which should keep it opened, and found the hole > for this stick (this part was the hardest, it is well hiddened). I > easily found the auxiliary battery, opened it, found "+", but was > unable to find "-", no matter how hard I tried. The small picture in > the manual is incomprehensible. It seems that "-" is somewhere in the > right upper part, far away from the battery, near the tank. The > sentence "Connect the clamp on the negative (black) jumper cable to > the negative (-) terminal on the booster battery" doesn't help at > all. Where is the negative terminal? There isn't any (-) negative terminal, just the one (+) post because the entire frame of the Prius is the (-) post. Just put the red cable on the (+) post and clip the black cable clamp onto some exposed part attached to the steel frame of the car in the general underhood area. -- Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52 and Sea Monkey 1.5a
From: David T. Johnson on 28 Dec 2009 12:42 Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote: > In article > <dd1e27f8-8ac8-4bdb-9422-50eb6bf08db9(a)d20g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, > urod <npisarev(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Here is the URL where the term "auxiliary battery" is used: >> http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3750 > > Those are people who are obssessed with the idea that the Prius is an > "electric car," which it's not. Yes, if it was an "electric" car, it would run for 100 miles and then you'd have to charge it up at home for 8 hours on slow charge or, alternatively, try to find a rare fast charging station before the battery went dead where you could charge it up in only 30 minutes. A Prius can easily run for 400 miles and then recharge in only 5 minutes. > > For turning on purposes, there's a battery. It's not an auxiliary > battery. The car can't run without it. There's TWO batteries on a Prius. There's the very little 12 volt battery which starts up the computers when you push the 'start' button and powers the 12v systems and then there's the big 100+ volt battery that powers the drive motors. When you 'jump' start the Prius with the 12v power cables from another vehicle, you are just providing 12v power to boot the computers and close the main power relay to bring the big battery online. -- Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52 and Sea Monkey 1.5a
From: Al Falfa on 28 Dec 2009 19:46 "News" <News(a)Groups.Name> wrote in message news:KMGdnVv-5tgpI6XWnZ2dnUVZ_j9i4p2d(a)speakeasy.net... > urod wrote: >> I don't know why my post continues to appear again and again. I >> posted it only once. > > > Maybe because you haven't found the negative post... Thanks, I needed a good laugh.
From: Al Falfa on 28 Dec 2009 19:52 "Al Sherman" <als62(a)rcn.com> wrote in message news:hhaftr$4qe$1(a)news.albasani.net... > >>> The manual is incomprehensible. For the start, it doesn't explain how >>> to open the hatch. After lots of trying, I found the button under the >>> hatch, found the stick which should keep it opened, and found the hole >>> for this stick (this part was the hardest, it is well hiddened). >> >> On a Prius? There is no "stick that keeps it opened". >> > > On my Gen 2, there is a stick that can prop the panel above the battery in > the raised position. I had not noticed for a very long time, and just > removed the whole floor panel for access. > > What year is your Prius? I have seen 2004-2009 referred to as Gen 3 in > the far east and Gen 2 in N. America. > > -Al > The 2010 also has a stick that holds the hood up. It's easier to find and deploy than the stick on my 2005. I used the manual to find the positive charge point (where the positive lead from your charger connects) and clamped the negative lead from the charger onto some nearby metal. Under the circumstances I suppose I should mention that by convention red is positive and black is negative.
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