From: Mike Hunter on
If you are driving a Toyota that could well be today


"Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Going to have to remember this one next time the cops pull me over for
> speeding.
>
> On 09/03/2010 12:38 PM, Mike Hunter wrote:
>> An article in todays Tribune Newspapers, the NHTSA says they have 3,326
>> unintended acceleration complaints involving Toyota vehicles over the
>> past
>> nine years resulting in 1,269 crashes, nearly 500 injuries and 54 deaths.
>> Complaints include owners of Toyotas that had the brake and software
>> repairs.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty"<elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
>> news:elmop-A89C58.13183009032010(a)nothing.attdns.com...
>>> In article<hn6265$rmi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> "C. E. White"<cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> - The guy said he had a recall notice. I assume this was for the brake
>>>> system software fix.
>>>
>>> Nope. That car is not under the brake system software fix. Only 2010
>>> models are.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> --------------
> Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


From: Jeff Strickland on

"Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
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> On 2010-03-09 14:00:03 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com>
> said:
>
>>
>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>> news:hn5udc$bg9$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>> On 2010-03-09 08:48:38 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com>
>>> said:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hn5qpm$5k6$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>>> On 2010-03-09 07:36:51 -0800, TheTibetanMonkey
>>>>> <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another of these little MOWING MACHINES runs out of control. My take
>>>>>> on the issue is that Toyota sends the engineers with the highest IQ
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> work at Lexus, while those with very low IQ are assigned to Toyota.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's looking like an even lower IQ is required to purchase a Prius.
>>>>>
>>>>> It "jumps" to 94 mph before this idiot figures out how to stop it,
>>>>> instead
>>>>> wasting his time on the phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jumps, indeed. Incredible.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It didn't jump to 94, it jumped and kept going. Big difference.
>>>
>>> My comment was sarcastic. A Prius "jumping" to 94. Funny.
>>>
>>>> He's describing a downshift event -- the jump. This in itself would not
>>>> be a
>>>> problem, but when one lifts his foot off the gas, the downshift event
>>>> should
>>>> come to an end and the car's speed should level off or begin to slow --
>>>> depending on how far one lifts his foot.
>>>>
>>>> The cop reports that he could smell the brakes and he observed the
>>>> brake
>>>> lights going on as the driver tried to stop the car.
>>>
>>> I'm sure of all you wrote. But the guy's an idiot. Too bad
>>> reaction-time
>>> and vehicle familiarity tests are required to be renewed on a regular
>>> basis when a license expires.
>>>
>>
>>
>> It's absurd that anybody thinks a driver can get so screwed around
>> sideways
>> for so long that a call to 911 AND A RESPONSE from the CHP can take place
>> before the driver gets straightened out AND the cop reports that the
>> brake
>> lights were coming on and that he could SMELL the brakes burning, and you
>> still think the driver is such an idiot that he can't find the right
>> pedal.
>> It's not like it's a multiple choice question with a different answer
>> everytime. The guy had at least five minutes to react and become familiar
>> with the controls of his car.
>>
>> Sure, some are clearly idiots, but they can't all be idiots and the CHP
>> took
>> the car so it could be inspected. I don't know the results of the
>> inspection, but I'm sure we'll all know very soon.
>
> I see absurdity on the road every day. It's not much of a stretch to
> apply the average driver's "ability" to not knowing how to put a
> transmission in neutral.
>

This driver was confused for 23 minutes. All the while mashing the right
pedal and not getting the results he was expecting.







From: Jeff Strickland on

"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>> news:hn5u5l$vkh$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hn5qpm$5k6$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>> On 2010-03-09 07:36:51 -0800, TheTibetanMonkey
>>>> <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> said:
>>>>
>>>>> Another of these little MOWING MACHINES runs out of control. My take
>>>>> on the issue is that Toyota sends the engineers with the highest IQ to
>>>>> work at Lexus, while those with very low IQ are assigned to Toyota.
>>>>
>>>> It's looking like an even lower IQ is required to purchase a Prius.
>>>>
>>>> It "jumps" to 94 mph before this idiot figures out how to stop it,
>>>> instead wasting his time on the phone.
>>>>
>>>> Jumps, indeed. Incredible.
>>>>
>>>
>>> It didn't jump to 94, it jumped and kept going. Big difference.
>>>
>>> He's describing a downshift event -- the jump. This in itself would not
>>> be a problem, but when one lifts his foot off the gas, the downshift
>>> event should come to an end and the car's speed should level off or
>>> begin to slow -- depending on how far one lifts his foot.
>>>
>>> The cop reports that he could smell the brakes and he observed the brake
>>> lights going on as the driver tried to stop the car.
>>>
>>
>> The Prius has a continuously variable transmission so he should not be
>> experiencing a downshift event.
>> --
>
>
> Okay, then the jump was something else.
>
>

It's reported in my paper today that it was the gas pedal itself that
jumped, not the car.





From: Mike Hunter on
So THAT is what happened to all of those Toyotas, whose owners say their
cars have unintentionally accelerated? LOL


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
> news:hn6h5l$eil$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>> On 2010-03-09 14:00:03 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com>
>> said:
>>
>>>
>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hn5udc$bg9$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>> On 2010-03-09 08:48:38 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com>
>>>> said:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hn5qpm$5k6$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>>>> On 2010-03-09 07:36:51 -0800, TheTibetanMonkey
>>>>>> <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> said:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another of these little MOWING MACHINES runs out of control. My take
>>>>>>> on the issue is that Toyota sends the engineers with the highest IQ
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> work at Lexus, while those with very low IQ are assigned to Toyota.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's looking like an even lower IQ is required to purchase a Prius.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It "jumps" to 94 mph before this idiot figures out how to stop it,
>>>>>> instead
>>>>>> wasting his time on the phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jumps, indeed. Incredible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It didn't jump to 94, it jumped and kept going. Big difference.
>>>>
>>>> My comment was sarcastic. A Prius "jumping" to 94. Funny.
>>>>
>>>>> He's describing a downshift event -- the jump. This in itself would
>>>>> not
>>>>> be a
>>>>> problem, but when one lifts his foot off the gas, the downshift event
>>>>> should
>>>>> come to an end and the car's speed should level off or begin to
>>>>> slow --
>>>>> depending on how far one lifts his foot.
>>>>>
>>>>> The cop reports that he could smell the brakes and he observed the
>>>>> brake
>>>>> lights going on as the driver tried to stop the car.
>>>>
>>>> I'm sure of all you wrote. But the guy's an idiot. Too bad
>>>> reaction-time
>>>> and vehicle familiarity tests are required to be renewed on a regular
>>>> basis when a license expires.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's absurd that anybody thinks a driver can get so screwed around
>>> sideways
>>> for so long that a call to 911 AND A RESPONSE from the CHP can take
>>> place
>>> before the driver gets straightened out AND the cop reports that the
>>> brake
>>> lights were coming on and that he could SMELL the brakes burning, and
>>> you
>>> still think the driver is such an idiot that he can't find the right
>>> pedal.
>>> It's not like it's a multiple choice question with a different answer
>>> everytime. The guy had at least five minutes to react and become
>>> familiar
>>> with the controls of his car.
>>>
>>> Sure, some are clearly idiots, but they can't all be idiots and the CHP
>>> took
>>> the car so it could be inspected. I don't know the results of the
>>> inspection, but I'm sure we'll all know very soon.
>>
>> I see absurdity on the road every day. It's not much of a stretch to
>> apply the average driver's "ability" to not knowing how to put a
>> transmission in neutral.
>>
>
> This driver was confused for 23 minutes. All the while mashing the right
> pedal and not getting the results he was expecting.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


From: Mike Hunter on
But, but, but we thought Toyota had fixed their gas pedal problem


"Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:hn6gek$asi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>
>> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message
>> news:hn617f$ck8$2(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>
>>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>> news:hn5u5l$vkh$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>
>>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hn5qpm$5k6$1(a)news.albasani.net...
>>>>> On 2010-03-09 07:36:51 -0800, TheTibetanMonkey
>>>>> <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Another of these little MOWING MACHINES runs out of control. My take
>>>>>> on the issue is that Toyota sends the engineers with the highest IQ
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> work at Lexus, while those with very low IQ are assigned to Toyota.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's looking like an even lower IQ is required to purchase a Prius.
>>>>>
>>>>> It "jumps" to 94 mph before this idiot figures out how to stop it,
>>>>> instead wasting his time on the phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jumps, indeed. Incredible.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It didn't jump to 94, it jumped and kept going. Big difference.
>>>>
>>>> He's describing a downshift event -- the jump. This in itself would not
>>>> be a problem, but when one lifts his foot off the gas, the downshift
>>>> event should come to an end and the car's speed should level off or
>>>> begin to slow -- depending on how far one lifts his foot.
>>>>
>>>> The cop reports that he could smell the brakes and he observed the
>>>> brake lights going on as the driver tried to stop the car.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The Prius has a continuously variable transmission so he should not be
>>> experiencing a downshift event.
>>> --
>>
>>
>> Okay, then the jump was something else.
>>
>>
>
> It's reported in my paper today that it was the gas pedal itself that
> jumped, not the car.
>
>
>
>
>