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From: Mike Hunter on 10 Mar 2010 10:52 If you are driving a Toyota that could well be today "Canuck57" <Canuck57(a)nospam.com> wrote in message news:YjDln.33764$Dv7.20319(a)newsfe17.iad... > Going to have to remember this one next time the cops pull me over for > speeding. > > On 09/03/2010 12:38 PM, Mike Hunter wrote: >> An article in todays Tribune Newspapers, the NHTSA says they have 3,326 >> unintended acceleration complaints involving Toyota vehicles over the >> past >> nine years resulting in 1,269 crashes, nearly 500 injuries and 54 deaths. >> Complaints include owners of Toyotas that had the brake and software >> repairs. >> >> >> >> "Elmo P. Shagnasty"<elmop(a)nastydesigns.com> wrote in message >> news:elmop-A89C58.13183009032010(a)nothing.attdns.com... >>> In article<hn6265$rmi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, >>> "C. E. White"<cewhite3(a)mindspring.com> wrote: >>> >>>> - The guy said he had a recall notice. I assume this was for the brake >>>> system software fix. >>> >>> Nope. That car is not under the brake system software fix. Only 2010 >>> models are. >> >> > > > -- > -------------- > Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.
From: Jeff Strickland on 10 Mar 2010 11:06 "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message news:hn6h5l$eil$1(a)news.albasani.net... > On 2010-03-09 14:00:03 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> > said: > >> >> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >> news:hn5udc$bg9$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>> On 2010-03-09 08:48:38 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> >>> said: >>> >>>> >>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>>> news:hn5qpm$5k6$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>>> On 2010-03-09 07:36:51 -0800, TheTibetanMonkey >>>>> <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> said: >>>>> >>>>>> Another of these little MOWING MACHINES runs out of control. My take >>>>>> on the issue is that Toyota sends the engineers with the highest IQ >>>>>> to >>>>>> work at Lexus, while those with very low IQ are assigned to Toyota. >>>>> >>>>> It's looking like an even lower IQ is required to purchase a Prius. >>>>> >>>>> It "jumps" to 94 mph before this idiot figures out how to stop it, >>>>> instead >>>>> wasting his time on the phone. >>>>> >>>>> Jumps, indeed. Incredible. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It didn't jump to 94, it jumped and kept going. Big difference. >>> >>> My comment was sarcastic. A Prius "jumping" to 94. Funny. >>> >>>> He's describing a downshift event -- the jump. This in itself would not >>>> be a >>>> problem, but when one lifts his foot off the gas, the downshift event >>>> should >>>> come to an end and the car's speed should level off or begin to slow -- >>>> depending on how far one lifts his foot. >>>> >>>> The cop reports that he could smell the brakes and he observed the >>>> brake >>>> lights going on as the driver tried to stop the car. >>> >>> I'm sure of all you wrote. But the guy's an idiot. Too bad >>> reaction-time >>> and vehicle familiarity tests are required to be renewed on a regular >>> basis when a license expires. >>> >> >> >> It's absurd that anybody thinks a driver can get so screwed around >> sideways >> for so long that a call to 911 AND A RESPONSE from the CHP can take place >> before the driver gets straightened out AND the cop reports that the >> brake >> lights were coming on and that he could SMELL the brakes burning, and you >> still think the driver is such an idiot that he can't find the right >> pedal. >> It's not like it's a multiple choice question with a different answer >> everytime. The guy had at least five minutes to react and become familiar >> with the controls of his car. >> >> Sure, some are clearly idiots, but they can't all be idiots and the CHP >> took >> the car so it could be inspected. I don't know the results of the >> inspection, but I'm sure we'll all know very soon. > > I see absurdity on the road every day. It's not much of a stretch to > apply the average driver's "ability" to not knowing how to put a > transmission in neutral. > This driver was confused for 23 minutes. All the while mashing the right pedal and not getting the results he was expecting.
From: Jeff Strickland on 10 Mar 2010 11:07 "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hn6gek$asi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message > news:hn617f$ck8$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >> news:hn5u5l$vkh$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>> news:hn5qpm$5k6$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>> On 2010-03-09 07:36:51 -0800, TheTibetanMonkey >>>> <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> said: >>>> >>>>> Another of these little MOWING MACHINES runs out of control. My take >>>>> on the issue is that Toyota sends the engineers with the highest IQ to >>>>> work at Lexus, while those with very low IQ are assigned to Toyota. >>>> >>>> It's looking like an even lower IQ is required to purchase a Prius. >>>> >>>> It "jumps" to 94 mph before this idiot figures out how to stop it, >>>> instead wasting his time on the phone. >>>> >>>> Jumps, indeed. Incredible. >>>> >>> >>> It didn't jump to 94, it jumped and kept going. Big difference. >>> >>> He's describing a downshift event -- the jump. This in itself would not >>> be a problem, but when one lifts his foot off the gas, the downshift >>> event should come to an end and the car's speed should level off or >>> begin to slow -- depending on how far one lifts his foot. >>> >>> The cop reports that he could smell the brakes and he observed the brake >>> lights going on as the driver tried to stop the car. >>> >> >> The Prius has a continuously variable transmission so he should not be >> experiencing a downshift event. >> -- > > > Okay, then the jump was something else. > > It's reported in my paper today that it was the gas pedal itself that jumped, not the car.
From: Mike Hunter on 10 Mar 2010 11:33 So THAT is what happened to all of those Toyotas, whose owners say their cars have unintentionally accelerated? LOL "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hn8h2i$93i$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message > news:hn6h5l$eil$1(a)news.albasani.net... >> On 2010-03-09 14:00:03 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> >> said: >> >>> >>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>> news:hn5udc$bg9$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>> On 2010-03-09 08:48:38 -0800, "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> >>>> said: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:hn5qpm$5k6$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>>>> On 2010-03-09 07:36:51 -0800, TheTibetanMonkey >>>>>> <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> said: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Another of these little MOWING MACHINES runs out of control. My take >>>>>>> on the issue is that Toyota sends the engineers with the highest IQ >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> work at Lexus, while those with very low IQ are assigned to Toyota. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's looking like an even lower IQ is required to purchase a Prius. >>>>>> >>>>>> It "jumps" to 94 mph before this idiot figures out how to stop it, >>>>>> instead >>>>>> wasting his time on the phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Jumps, indeed. Incredible. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> It didn't jump to 94, it jumped and kept going. Big difference. >>>> >>>> My comment was sarcastic. A Prius "jumping" to 94. Funny. >>>> >>>>> He's describing a downshift event -- the jump. This in itself would >>>>> not >>>>> be a >>>>> problem, but when one lifts his foot off the gas, the downshift event >>>>> should >>>>> come to an end and the car's speed should level off or begin to >>>>> slow -- >>>>> depending on how far one lifts his foot. >>>>> >>>>> The cop reports that he could smell the brakes and he observed the >>>>> brake >>>>> lights going on as the driver tried to stop the car. >>>> >>>> I'm sure of all you wrote. But the guy's an idiot. Too bad >>>> reaction-time >>>> and vehicle familiarity tests are required to be renewed on a regular >>>> basis when a license expires. >>>> >>> >>> >>> It's absurd that anybody thinks a driver can get so screwed around >>> sideways >>> for so long that a call to 911 AND A RESPONSE from the CHP can take >>> place >>> before the driver gets straightened out AND the cop reports that the >>> brake >>> lights were coming on and that he could SMELL the brakes burning, and >>> you >>> still think the driver is such an idiot that he can't find the right >>> pedal. >>> It's not like it's a multiple choice question with a different answer >>> everytime. The guy had at least five minutes to react and become >>> familiar >>> with the controls of his car. >>> >>> Sure, some are clearly idiots, but they can't all be idiots and the CHP >>> took >>> the car so it could be inspected. I don't know the results of the >>> inspection, but I'm sure we'll all know very soon. >> >> I see absurdity on the road every day. It's not much of a stretch to >> apply the average driver's "ability" to not knowing how to put a >> transmission in neutral. >> > > This driver was confused for 23 minutes. All the while mashing the right > pedal and not getting the results he was expecting. > > > > > > >
From: Mike Hunter on 10 Mar 2010 11:35
But, but, but we thought Toyota had fixed their gas pedal problem "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:hn8h2k$93i$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message > news:hn6gek$asi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> >> "Ray O" <rokigawa(a)NOSPAMtristarassociates.com> wrote in message >> news:hn617f$ck8$2(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> "Jeff Strickland" <crwlrjeff(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message >>> news:hn5u5l$vkh$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>>> >>>> "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message >>>> news:hn5qpm$5k6$1(a)news.albasani.net... >>>>> On 2010-03-09 07:36:51 -0800, TheTibetanMonkey >>>>> <comandante.banana(a)yahoo.com> said: >>>>> >>>>>> Another of these little MOWING MACHINES runs out of control. My take >>>>>> on the issue is that Toyota sends the engineers with the highest IQ >>>>>> to >>>>>> work at Lexus, while those with very low IQ are assigned to Toyota. >>>>> >>>>> It's looking like an even lower IQ is required to purchase a Prius. >>>>> >>>>> It "jumps" to 94 mph before this idiot figures out how to stop it, >>>>> instead wasting his time on the phone. >>>>> >>>>> Jumps, indeed. Incredible. >>>>> >>>> >>>> It didn't jump to 94, it jumped and kept going. Big difference. >>>> >>>> He's describing a downshift event -- the jump. This in itself would not >>>> be a problem, but when one lifts his foot off the gas, the downshift >>>> event should come to an end and the car's speed should level off or >>>> begin to slow -- depending on how far one lifts his foot. >>>> >>>> The cop reports that he could smell the brakes and he observed the >>>> brake lights going on as the driver tried to stop the car. >>>> >>> >>> The Prius has a continuously variable transmission so he should not be >>> experiencing a downshift event. >>> -- >> >> >> Okay, then the jump was something else. >> >> > > It's reported in my paper today that it was the gas pedal itself that > jumped, not the car. > > > > > |