Could UA be related to cellphones?
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From: JoeSpareBedroom on 11 Mar 2010 21:56 "Conscience" <nobama@g�v.com> wrote in message news:hnca7p$g6k$1(a)news.albasani.net... > On 2010-03-11 18:39:58 -0800, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said: > >> Conscience wrote: >>> On 2010-03-11 17:09:35 -0800, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said: >>> >>>>>>> Fooling around with your radio/CD player has been shown to be more >>>>>>> distracting than cell phone use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But you'll never hear anyone talk about banning their use. >>>>>> >>>>>> One fools around with the CD or radio for a few seconds, not for >>>>>> minutes on end as with a cell phone. >>>>> >>>>> Which in no way negates what I wrote. Time is irrelevant. >>>>> >>>>> Do try to keep up, "doctor". >>>> >>>> Nor did what you say negate my comment. It is a valid comment. One >>>> spends far more time talking on the cell phone than playing with the >>>> radio. And time is relevant. If you think that doing something >>>> distracting for 10 seconds is as distracting doing something >>>> distracting for 5 minutes, you are sadly mistaken. >>>> >>>> You don't need to be so hostile or disrespectful. I wasn't >>>> disrespectful of you. >>> >>> Let's try this again. I stated that radio/CD use was more distracting >>> that cell phone use. Not my research, but it's true. >> >> Actually, no: >> http://www.hsrc.unc.edu/safety_info/distracted_drowsy/distracted_drivers_researcher_remarks.cfm >> shows that people are more likely to swerve when answering a cell phone >> than using the radio controls. > > I didn't restrict it to "swerving", but thanks for playing. > Maybe if you showed your data, your claim would crush the "doctor's" counterclaim once and for all. This was your claim: "Fooling around with your radio/CD player has been shown to be more distracting than cell phone use." If that claim is based only on your observations, then your statistical sample isn't large enough to be meaningful. You're a very smart person, so you already knew that. Therefore, you must've seen some actual data somewhere. Let's see it.
From: dr_jeff on 11 Mar 2010 21:58 Conscience wrote: > On 2010-03-11 18:39:58 -0800, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said: > >> Conscience wrote: >>> On 2010-03-11 17:09:35 -0800, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said: >>> >>>>>>> Fooling around with your radio/CD player has been shown to be >>>>>>> more distracting than cell phone use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But you'll never hear anyone talk about banning their use. >>>>>> >>>>>> One fools around with the CD or radio for a few seconds, not for >>>>>> minutes on end as with a cell phone. >>>>> >>>>> Which in no way negates what I wrote. Time is irrelevant. >>>>> >>>>> Do try to keep up, "doctor". >>>> >>>> Nor did what you say negate my comment. It is a valid comment. One >>>> spends far more time talking on the cell phone than playing with the >>>> radio. And time is relevant. If you think that doing something >>>> distracting for 10 seconds is as distracting doing something >>>> distracting for 5 minutes, you are sadly mistaken. >>>> >>>> You don't need to be so hostile or disrespectful. I wasn't >>>> disrespectful of you. >>> >>> Let's try this again. I stated that radio/CD use was more >>> distracting that cell phone use. Not my research, but it's true. >> >> Actually, no: >> http://www.hsrc.unc.edu/safety_info/distracted_drowsy/distracted_drivers_researcher_remarks.cfm >> shows that people are more likely to swerve when answering a cell >> phone than using the radio controls. > > I didn't restrict it to "swerving", but thanks for playing. Perhaps you should read the whole report. It does not support your claim that using radios is dangerous than using cell phones. It, too, is not restricted to swerving. Jeff
From: dr_jeff on 11 Mar 2010 22:07 Conscience wrote: > On 2010-03-11 18:58:00 -0800, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said: > >> Conscience wrote: >>> On 2010-03-11 18:39:58 -0800, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said: >>> >>>> Conscience wrote: >>>>> On 2010-03-11 17:09:35 -0800, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said: >>>>> >>>>>>>>> Fooling around with your radio/CD player has been shown to be >>>>>>>>> more distracting than cell phone use. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But you'll never hear anyone talk about banning their use. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One fools around with the CD or radio for a few seconds, not for >>>>>>>> minutes on end as with a cell phone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Which in no way negates what I wrote. Time is irrelevant. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do try to keep up, "doctor". >>>>>> >>>>>> Nor did what you say negate my comment. It is a valid comment. One >>>>>> spends far more time talking on the cell phone than playing with >>>>>> the radio. And time is relevant. If you think that doing something >>>>>> distracting for 10 seconds is as distracting doing something >>>>>> distracting for 5 minutes, you are sadly mistaken. >>>>>> >>>>>> You don't need to be so hostile or disrespectful. I wasn't >>>>>> disrespectful of you. >>>>> >>>>> Let's try this again. I stated that radio/CD use was more >>>>> distracting that cell phone use. Not my research, but it's true. >>>> >>>> Actually, no: >>>> http://www.hsrc.unc.edu/safety_info/distracted_drowsy/distracted_drivers_researcher_remarks.cfm >>>> shows that people are more likely to swerve when answering a cell >>>> phone than using the radio controls. >>> >>> I didn't restrict it to "swerving", but thanks for playing. >> >> Perhaps you should read the whole report. It does not support your >> claim that using radios is dangerous than using cell phones. It, too, >> is not restricted to swerving. > > Same as global warming. But in this case, I read a report five or six > years ago that claimed it does cause more distraction than cellphones. > > Now the shoe's on the other foot. ;-) You read a study 5 or 6 years ago? What study? How has cell phone use and radio/stereo use and controls changed since then? Shoe's still on your foot. Jeff
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 11 Mar 2010 22:47 On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:09:35 -0500, dr_jeff wrote: > If you think that doing something distracting for 10 > seconds is as distracting doing something distracting for 5 minutes, you > are sadly mistaken. Again, what's so distracting? Why is a phone different from another person in the car, or the radio?
From: Hachiroku ハチロク on 11 Mar 2010 22:48
On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 21:58:00 -0500, dr_jeff wrote: > Conscience wrote: >> On 2010-03-11 18:39:58 -0800, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said: >> >>> Conscience wrote: >>>> On 2010-03-11 17:09:35 -0800, dr_jeff <utz(a)msu.edu> said: >>>> >>>>>>>> Fooling around with your radio/CD player has been shown to be more >>>>>>>> distracting than cell phone use. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But you'll never hear anyone talk about banning their use. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One fools around with the CD or radio for a few seconds, not for >>>>>>> minutes on end as with a cell phone. >>>>>> >>>>>> Which in no way negates what I wrote. Time is irrelevant. >>>>>> >>>>>> Do try to keep up, "doctor". >>>>> >>>>> Nor did what you say negate my comment. It is a valid comment. One >>>>> spends far more time talking on the cell phone than playing with the >>>>> radio. And time is relevant. If you think that doing something >>>>> distracting for 10 seconds is as distracting doing something >>>>> distracting for 5 minutes, you are sadly mistaken. >>>>> >>>>> You don't need to be so hostile or disrespectful. I wasn't >>>>> disrespectful of you. >>>> >>>> Let's try this again. I stated that radio/CD use was more distracting >>>> that cell phone use. Not my research, but it's true. >>> >>> Actually, no: >>> http://www.hsrc.unc.edu/safety_info/distracted_drowsy/distracted_drivers_researcher_remarks.cfm >>> shows that people are more likely to swerve when answering a cell phone >>> than using the radio controls. >> >> I didn't restrict it to "swerving", but thanks for playing. > > Perhaps you should read the whole report. It does not support your claim > that using radios is dangerous than using cell phones. It, too, is not > restricted to swerving. > > Jeff I would love to sign up for a study like that. |